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  • lol, okay.
    my primal journal:
    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...Primal-Journal

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    • Found it:

      Patrick: Yeah, the Cult of Being So Awesome We Kill Both Pirates and Ninjas With But a Glance! (CBSAWKBPNWBG to the layman, duh.) And we're damn exclusive in that only those who worship devoutly at the altar of bacon and buttered steak may join our hallowed ranks

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      • lmao

        i used some of the smoked chicken to make a curry of sorts: coconut milk, diced tomatoes, onion, ginger, cauliflower, and garam masala. if i can find some local eggs, tomorrow i'll make mayonaise, and use some of the chicken for a chicken salad.
        Last edited by Saoirse; 08-18-2011, 07:58 PM.
        my primal journal:
        http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...Primal-Journal

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        • Never text anything important. It always does more harm than good. Frankly, never text with a significant other is my advice. I only had texting capability with one chick I was seeing and all it did was cause stupid, useless stress: "She just responded. Why isn't she responding now? Crap. Did I just send something over the top?!" "Should I wait a few minutes before responding? If I just fire something off right away, does it look like I have nothing better to do?" Etc. I love technology, but some of it should not be used when dating/in a relationship.

          Re: castration/rape, another example would be the gladiators in the Spartacus series being used (against their will, obviously) as sexual entertainment. I'm thinking of poor married Varro in this particular instance. "...Make him do it again!"

          I'd completely forgotten about what that acronym stood for, Jon! Hahaha!
          August 2010: 207 lb, 37" waist, 25+% BF | Currently: 177 lb, 33" waist, ~15% BF

          I have a new site up and will soon be blogging at The Wayward Mind. (My journal is semi-retired at this point)

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          • yes, that's what i've been saying. hubby says "if we have conversations in text, we can go back and reference them." i say that there's no point in referencing a conversation if we don't understand what was said, or if what was said wasn't a true representation of what was meant (I have a difficult time turning emotion into text when it comes to difficult topics). at the same time, id rather text than not communicate throughout the day. i'm not going to call him at work unless it's urgent, but at the same time i never intend to use texting to communicate important messages unless they're easy to convey.

            i couldn't find any mention of such a Varro in wikipedia, was he a real person or a character in a book?
            my primal journal:
            http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...Primal-Journal

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            • My husband and I text each other often but its mostly stupid shit. Usually when he calls me, I know I did something "wrong"
              Georgette

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              • i agree with you about the sex/violence thing in film, etc. I feel like things can be alluded to without being directly shown. This was handled in The Lovely Bones -- in both the book and the film -- really nicely. Obviously, "something" happened and it was horrific, but the audience didn't have to be traumatized by it.

                I refuse to watch films that upset me anymore. And i get ANGRY if dh won't fast forward through something so OBVIOUS as a rape scene. We were watching -- what was it -- girl with hornet's nest or whatever -- and i was just like "DUDE< CAN YOU FAST FORWRARD NOW? and it took him about 10-15 seconds (already into the depiction) before he was like "oh, right! but it pushes the story forward."

                I think if you show the tie up and the lead in (her dressed and screaming "no" etc), then, guess what? audience knows what happens and doesn't need to be subjected to 4 minutes!!!! of depicted rape.

                I talk to a lot of film makers, and the reason i go "!!!!" after the number of minutes is because of editing. filmmakers are always saying how they have to cut scenes that develop a character's arc because they just "dont' have enough film time." and I have to tell these filmmakers, then why keep in 4 minutes!!!!! of a woman being violated?

                To me, it's just somehow acceptable arousal for some men (and perhaps some women), and so it 'needs to be in there to be real" or whatever, which i think is just utter bullshit and a way for some subconscious, cultural thing to punish women in general (and yes, I really believe this). It's saying "be afraid, we have real power" or some such, and it upsets me greatly. Because i don't think it's rael, and I do feel violated by proxy (because the point of the film is to *relate* to the character, and once i've suspended disbelief and drawn myself into the character, guess what? I am being raped by proxy.

                And it's not nice. Psychologically, it's a game of control.

                So in my mind that could have been trimmed to the 10-second lead in, and what happens happens off-screen and you know it happens but aren't subjected tot he trauma of it, and then you have 3 minutes and 90 seconds of film that you can use in another way, say, in character development.

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                silent treatment is also an aggressive act. people think of it as "passive aggressive" but it is technically out-and-out hostile, psychologically speaking.

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                • Originally posted by zoebird View Post
                  To me, it's just somehow acceptable arousal for some men (and perhaps some women), and so it 'needs to be in there to be real" or whatever, which i think is just utter bullshit and a way for some subconscious, cultural thing to punish women in general (and yes, I really believe this). It's saying "be afraid, we have real power" or some such, and it upsets me greatly. Because i don't think it's rael, and I do feel violated by proxy (because the point of the film is to *relate* to the character, and once i've suspended disbelief and drawn myself into the character, guess what? I am being raped by proxy.

                  And it's not nice. Psychologically, it's a game of control.

                  So in my mind that could have been trimmed to the 10-second lead in, and what happens happens off-screen and you know it happens but aren't subjected tot he trauma of it, and then you have 3 minutes and 90 seconds of film that you can use in another way, say, in character development.

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                  silent treatment is also an aggressive act. people think of it as "passive aggressive" but it is technically out-and-out hostile, psychologically speaking.
                  i completely agree with your explanation. i don't claim under any pretext that i know how it feels to have been raped, nor am i comparing watching a movie with being raped. but as a female viewer, i do feel violated to some degree by the depiction of it. and this was not subtle, it was hardcore porn sort of rape, without the close-up scenes. what's more is i suspect the character who was raped is going to eventually develop a great deal of fondness for her attacker (she was sold as a wife to a "barbarian" king), because after that attack she asked a slave to teach her how to please her new husband. seriously, some sick dude's wet dream.
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                  • well, i was inappropriately touched as a child (by another, but older, child -- he was 12/13 and I was 8) and so it does mark the way i feel about all of these things, sex, and all that stuff.

                    i have a strong aversion to it, and having also studied the women's/gender/cultural studies side of things -- the academia behind it -- i totally do not get why this is socially ok, or even why people seek it out. because i do feel that people actually seek it out.

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                    • i agree. i think even men who are totally respectful towards women might get a little rise from watching scenes like that, and i wonder if that affects their sexual tastes in subtle ways.

                      btw, down to 120. can i get a woop woop??
                      Last edited by Saoirse; 08-19-2011, 03:23 PM.
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                      http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...Primal-Journal

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                      • awesome!

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                        • Woot Woot!!!
                          Georgette

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                          • Originally posted by Saoirse View Post
                            i agree. i think even men who are totally respectful towards women might get a little rise from watching scenes like that, and i wonder if that affects their sexual tastes in subtle ways.

                            btw, down to 120. can i get a woop woop??

                            Woop Woop!

                            For whatever it is worth it was not a rape in the book. She had warmed up to her husband far more in the book, though she is still a young virgin (13/14 in the book) and he is a very large man so it was clumsy and scary, but it was not a sexual assault in an unwilling victim sense. It just did not translate well to the screen unfortunately. I think it was a matter of time. As Zoebird said, much needs to be cut from movies/shows and the development of their relationship is one area that suffers.


                            I find your statement about men above to be disappointing. It is a bit of a reach in my mind to suggest that even men who treat women respectfully get off on rape scenes. And to say it affects their sexual tastes (even if subtly) suggests that even respectful men might treat a woman disrespectfully (or harmfully) when it comes to sex. It is rather sad if that is how you feel.

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                            • I have no problem with sex scenes in film whether it be that they're making love, rape or just fucking. I think in several films it is an important part of a character arc that if left out, the movie wouldn't work. Think of Jodie Foster in The Accused. That's a very important scene in the movie and it is an important arc in her character.
                              Georgette

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                              • i'll speak for myself. those scenes in movies *mess with my head* in a lot of ways.

                                so i don't know how they don't *mess with other people's heads* even unconsciously. but, i'm not in everyone else's head.

                                and, it's sort of like "you are what you eat." i've observed myself in that if i read too much of X kind of material, it messes with me. it can be completely in keeping with how i work -- eg, Yoga Journal -- and still mess with me.

                                Sometime in the late 1990s, YJ was purchased by a big magazine company. the changes at first were subtle -- truly, not that big of a deal. But then i started to notice that instead fo reading it and feeling like "Yeah, that's cool info! i can use that in my practice" I was starting to feel like "man, I really suck as a human being, and my yoga practice is just not authentic!"

                                i went back and contemplated when those ideas started to sneak in, and it was several months back -- perhaps a year o more -- and i started to connect it to specific yoga journal articles that were articles-cum-advertisements. Essentially, there was an article about "the best yoga gear this year!" and it was so expensive that I couldn't afford it. I don't read fashion magazines for this reason (among many, one image of beauty), and that is one of the articles that apparently i reacted to.

                                Anyway, there were many others. My own journals expressed frustration of not being as flexible as so and so, or not being as good a teacher as such and such, and simply just not being very worthy.

                                So, i stopped reading yoga journal. within about 4 weeks, the thoughts had dissipated, and whenever i read YJ now, I actually feel very similarly to when I did before I gave it up. It's amazing the *impact* that media can have, within it's images.

                                There are blogs relating to being a mom that I won't read because I'm not that kind of mom. BY that i mean, these really cool, artsy moms who always have awesome craft projects for themselves and their kids. I know some moms whose babies (under a year) were doing various "crafting play" and there are adorable photoes. I thought I would try hawk on painting, and he got frustrated becuase it wasn't working (the way he wanted), and i got frustrated by the mess, and now. . .well, painting happens at kindy. Because it just made me bats. And I don't craft either.

                                But when I look at those blogs, something in me goes "but i SHOULD BE. . ." and it's not necessarily what the blog intends (though I think it is what YJ intends), and well, there you go.

                                So, I do think that the images have major impact, even if we are not aware.

                                I mean, in my mind, why include a 4 minute scene? And from your perspective as viewer, why watch it? because the other 176 minutes (of a film) may be worth it? True, but I could use 3 mins and 90 seconds of character development any day. And if you can fast forward through it, and get the gist/meaning, then why sit through it?

                                (eg, it's one thing to be in a theater and confronted with it, and not being able to fast forward, vs being at home, and watching the whole scene because it's there).

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