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  • *hugs*
    I remember when Columbine happened. my older brother was called in to the office at school. apparently they were worried because he liked to draw stick death pictures during class. thankfully they just had the counselor talk to him instead of freaking out about it. This sort of thing isn't fixed or prevented by more stringent controls, but rather by creating a safe social environment for kids to learn.

    I think our high school principal was pretty effective at this. We had a senior/freshman mentoring program, and it was primarily the mature seniors who were encouraged to join. He'd give them talks about being leaders and being good role models, and they created the social climate for all the lower classmen. I'm not saying that bullying and teasing didn't happen, but it wasn't nearly as ubiquitous or tolerated as it seems it is in most other schools. Most of the staff cared and went out of the way to reach out to struggling students.

    Anyway, I know the Aurora shooter was in grad school, so it's sort of neither here nor there. Without a prior offense, I don't know how something like this could have been prevented; sociopaths are usually pretty good at hiding their illness, and very few of them actually become dangerous. It's peculiar that he happened to be a neurology student.

    Drssgchic- i hate that the media is turning this into a political issue. The guy could've easily killed as many or more with just the bombs that he made. The guns didn't create his insanity.
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    • Saoirse, I'm so sorry to hear about your kitteh. Hugs and sympathy.
      I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best.

      Oscar Wilde

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      • thank you Sigi.
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        • I've been having such a hard time staying energized throughout the day. I thought maybe it was sugar consumption, or nutritional deficiencies, or just hormones. Well, today, i consumed a pinch of salt before each glass of water, and i think it's making a huge difference. i always hear about how everyone consumes too much sodium, and when i plug my food into paleotrack, it says i eat more than enough sodium. but is it possible that i'm actually deficient? i'll continue eating salt with my water and see how i'm feeling in a few days.
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          • Dare I ask if it it iodised salt? No, I shouldn't, it might bring a whole world of crazy from that crazy thread into your journal.

            It is hard to understand your defence of guns, living in a society where guns are rare. I don't have a position and don't mean to sound like I am saying that because I do, I just cannot understand the debate. It was a tragedy.

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            • Lol, no not iodized salt. Here's the mineral analysis of the salt I use if you're interested:
              http://www.celticseasalt.com/PDF/Salt-Analysis.pdf

              WRT guns: It's okay if you don't understand. People have different viewpoints and that's okay. It was a tragedy, but political groups like to use the tragedy as an opportunity to bypass the public's intellect and appeal to their emotions to pass legislation. I sleep better at night knowing that if someone broke into my home, as long as i had a 15 second lead on them, I could have the upper hand (element of surprise+loaded firearm). This would not be the case if I was restricted from owning guns. I certainly do not relish the thought of harming another person, even in self-defense. But I sleep easier knowing that I could if I was put into such a position. I think of it as another form of life insurance.
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              • Danielfire, tangent rant here, I don't understand why the media can't distinguish between the different types of guns. Just because it goes bang bang bang and has a magazine coming out of it doesn't mean it's an AK-47. My MIL is in security and carries an AR-15 assault rifle and a 9mm handgun at work. She also has one of each at home to practice with, along with hundreds of rounds of ammo for each. I can honestly say I've never been afraid of either weapon killing me when I go to her house. I've never seen either do anything on their own.
                /tangent rant
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                • I've fired an AR-15 multiple times, they're quite fun.

                  I've never seen either do anything on their own.
                  lol. orly???
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                  • Originally posted by Saoirse View Post
                    I've fired an AR-15 multiple times, they're quite fun.
                    Me too, I likes them a lot.


                    Originally posted by Saoirse View Post
                    lol. orly???
                    No seriously. Even the ones in my house just sit there, for days, weeks, months on end not shooting anyone. Maybe I buy nicer guns than most? *shrug*
                    I've got several guns in the house, out of the reach of curious hands, but not in a safe or anything. I'm with you on making me feel better about burglars.
                    I think it's D.C. that says homeowners can own only shotguns for home protection and they have to be stored with a gun lock. Picture yourself in that scenario, scared to death, someone in your house, kids down the hall and your trying to unlock your gun.
                    Not me homie, not me.
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                    • yeah, no comment on the lock. let's just say that i like to keep them handy, but certainly out of reach of children. years ago, we dropped into a neighbor's house to say hi. She had a revolver just sitting on her counter. i didn't notice it until we were about to leave and my son asked if it was real. She, of course, was extremely apologetic that she had left it out. WRT kids and guns, the best prevention is education. you could have your guns locked tightly (or ban them from your house altogether), but is your child going to be safe at a friend's house? Not unless they know what to do if they see a gun and understand the importance of acting accordingly. I hear news stories of a 10 year old or a 13 year old "accidentally" shooting a sibling, and I have a hard time believing it was an accident. Everyone knows what a gun does. are these kids THAT detached from reality?
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                      • Originally posted by Saoirse View Post
                        are these kids THAT detached from reality?
                        When your nanny is a video game where you get shot and just get up and try again . . . possibly.
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                        • Originally posted by Saoirse View Post
                          Everyone knows what a gun does. are these kids THAT detached from reality?
                          Yeah, I think some are. I think they're so sheltered by helicopter parents that they don't understand basic things. Going up we had guns in our house, not out of the reach of curious hands, with ammo right next to said guns. I knew how to load them and how to shoot them at an early age, early as in maybe 8 or 9. By 11 I was rabbit and squirrel hunting by myself and killed my first deer at 12, all by myself.
                          I think with mine, once they get old enough to understand the weight of the conversation, I'll show them what a gun shot does to an inanimate object and let that sink in.
                          If I just said LOL, I lied. Do or do not. There is no try.

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                          • Each kid is different, some will understand the gravity of the situation and others will just think it's really cool to see a watermelon (or any other inanimate object) "explode." When my eldest was just a few years old (3ish), we took him out to the range with protective goggles and child-sized ear "muffs". He got to watch us take turns target shooting various firearms. Then my husband carefully held a .22 rifle and allowed my son to pull the trigger a few times, instructing him in the cardinal rules of firearm safety. We also had him pull the trigger on each of our pistols (unloaded) to see if he had the strength. At the time he didn't. We've done this once or twice with my daughter as well. They know what to do if they see a gun (run and tell an adult) and what to do if another kid has a gun (don't try to get it away from him, just run and tell an adult). They know the rules (if you're not sure if it's a toy or real, assume it's real and run and ask an adult; even if a gun is unloaded, never point it at anyone; always keep your finger off the trigger until the gun is aimed at what you want to shoot). Sometimes I take out a pistol, check that it's unloaded, and soberly let each kid handle it while reminding them of the gun safety rules. The kids never really play "guns" unless they have water guns or Nerf guns. The 5 and 8 year olds get it, of course our toddler is too young to understand.
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                            • Originally posted by justyouraveragecavemen View Post
                              No seriously. Even the ones in my house just sit there, for days, weeks, months on end not shooting anyone. Maybe I buy nicer guns than most? *shrug*
                              I've got several guns in the house...
                              Mine too!
                              Imagine that...
                              I have no 'small hands'.
                              Thus things are infinitely easier for me now, and very, very accessible when husband is not home.
                              (When husband is home... he has his accessible, and mine is handy too.)

                              Being sick and disabled I can't necessarily run and grab something, so it stays where I can get it quickly.

                              Shotguns are great for home defense.
                              The DC lock ON it thing... umm. Yeah. "Of course it was on it... I unlocked it then fired." Just sayn.
                              “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
                              ~Friedrich Nietzsche
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                              • yeah i think that only works for the firearm you fired. what about the other ones stashed in random places? hopefully they won't be found.


                                so guys, I WALKED today; actual exercise besides housework and chasing the kids. the serpentine belt slipped off the pulleys in my van again (insert expletive here) while I was driving my 3 kids and another kid to the lake during a rainstorm. thankfully we had friends who were running late, and we were able to squeeze into their vehicles and still have a great time, but my van is still in the country waiting to be rescued. So, last night instead of driving my husband's vehicle, which scares me, instead I walked the 1/2 mile to pick up a movie. And today I walked to our store with a 25lb monkey on my back to help with unloading the truck and stocking inventory. the monkey loved it, and now he's fast asleep. My legs are sore because I'm out of shape. But, 2 miles in the past 24 hrs is better than nothing! when our store relocates to the new building, I should be able to bike there with the trailer and the kids on their bikes. The current location requires crossing some pretty heavy traffic without crosswalks or crossing lights.
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