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  • #31
    I went shopping today to stock up some on "primal-ler" treats, as in not pure primal but better than Mars bars lol. Forgot to mention honey and sundried apricots as well, I also bought some smoked salmon .
    Gluten intolerance and hypermobility syndrome http://www.cfids.org/pdf/joint-hypermobility-guide.pdf

    Eat food. Mostly real. Enjoy life.

    Health, energy, wellbeing, vitality, joy, LIFE! Health At Every Size

    "Do not ask what the world needs; ask yourself what makes you come alive. And then go and do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive."
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    • #32
      Well I am pleased with how it is going. Some mild sugar withdrawal but otherwise fine. Long term of course I need to cut out/ down more stuff, but if this helps me get steady instead of jumping on and off, then I am happy.
      Gluten intolerance and hypermobility syndrome http://www.cfids.org/pdf/joint-hypermobility-guide.pdf

      Eat food. Mostly real. Enjoy life.

      Health, energy, wellbeing, vitality, joy, LIFE! Health At Every Size

      "Do not ask what the world needs; ask yourself what makes you come alive. And then go and do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive."
      Harold Whitman

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      • #33
        You go, horsewoman!!
        5'4" 39yo mother to five sweeties & married to their AMAZING DaddyGrok
        Current Weight: 175lb__________________________________Goal: 135lb
        Deadlift: 240lb________________________________________Back Squat: 165lb
        Bench: 130lb__________________________________________Pre ss: 85lb
        ***Winning a 20-year war against binge eating disorder***

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        • #34
          I'm really happy at the moment. Did a 5 hr yoga workshop with teachers visiting from India, was brilliant, we weren't supposed to eat, I had a couple of dried apricots and a really few nuts during the break and was fine right the way through! It is weird, even with lots of fruit, and having honey and sometimes sugar, my blood sugar is more stable. But if I eat grains, it is dodgy.
          Gluten intolerance and hypermobility syndrome http://www.cfids.org/pdf/joint-hypermobility-guide.pdf

          Eat food. Mostly real. Enjoy life.

          Health, energy, wellbeing, vitality, joy, LIFE! Health At Every Size

          "Do not ask what the world needs; ask yourself what makes you come alive. And then go and do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive."
          Harold Whitman

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          • #35
            I am loving this. My blood sugar has never been so stable, even though I am eating lots of fruit, and also having honey and dried fruit as and when I fancy it (which seems to be getting less). I can get up in the morning and make the kids packed lunches etc without feeling like I am going to pass out because I didn't eat the minute I got out of bed.

            I realised the last 2 times I slipped up were PMS time, so I will watch out for that and see if I can mitigate it somehow. But if I do slip I will know why, and a few days of less good eating a month won't undo the benefits of the rest of what I am doing, and I will still stay grain free.
            Gluten intolerance and hypermobility syndrome http://www.cfids.org/pdf/joint-hypermobility-guide.pdf

            Eat food. Mostly real. Enjoy life.

            Health, energy, wellbeing, vitality, joy, LIFE! Health At Every Size

            "Do not ask what the world needs; ask yourself what makes you come alive. And then go and do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive."
            Harold Whitman

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            • #36
              PMS time nobbled me again, and also I've been poorly and not been able to manage making good meals. I make do with things like canned mackerel and microwaved green beans, but it doesn't hit the spot and then I find I want junky stuff.

              But actually I am really pleased with how it is going. It wouldn't be reasonable to expect an instant miracle cure of a lifetime of disordered eating and long term ill health. The signs are good, I am hopeful .
              Gluten intolerance and hypermobility syndrome http://www.cfids.org/pdf/joint-hypermobility-guide.pdf

              Eat food. Mostly real. Enjoy life.

              Health, energy, wellbeing, vitality, joy, LIFE! Health At Every Size

              "Do not ask what the world needs; ask yourself what makes you come alive. And then go and do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive."
              Harold Whitman

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              • #37
                Well I am still here and still going. Primal is going to be a lifelong thing for me, I know it. I can't imagine ever going back to grains having seen how my body has changed. Just not having the crazy blood sugar and not needing to eat huge amounts is wonderful.

                I am having sugar things every now and then but finding it easier to get back on track, in fact not seeing it as going off track but just not expecting 100% perfection.

                I have noticed some food intolerance symptoms creeping in though- muscle soreness, fluid retention, heartburn etc. The only thing I have changed apart from cutting out nasties is I am having cream daily instead of every now and then. I already know cheese gives me stomach ache, I suspect casein so hoped I might get away with having cream. Hopefully that's the culprit- have binned the last of it this morning so fingers crossed.

                I haven't been doing so much yoga or swimming due to pain in my shoulders (a major food intolerance symptom for me- on gluten I could hardly move my arms first thing in the morning). So I really hope it eases off over the next week or two dairy free.

                Help me be strong! No gluten, no grains, no problem. No dairy... well I find it really tough. I'm not having dried fruit or honey, I'm better without those. Just have 90% cocoa choc and wine and cider as my last indulgences!
                Gluten intolerance and hypermobility syndrome http://www.cfids.org/pdf/joint-hypermobility-guide.pdf

                Eat food. Mostly real. Enjoy life.

                Health, energy, wellbeing, vitality, joy, LIFE! Health At Every Size

                "Do not ask what the world needs; ask yourself what makes you come alive. And then go and do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive."
                Harold Whitman

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                • #38
                  Be strong!

                  Just not having the crazy blood sugar and not needing to eat huge amounts is wonderful.
                  Isn't it? I mean, it's just wonderful. Even though I'm still fighting the battle against inadvertently-increasing-amounts-of-fruit-until-I-find-I'm-having-half-a-jar-of-100%-fruit-jam-a-day, I still feel so much better than before kicking the grains. I told DH the other day that I think in retrospect, I'm going to call part of my pre-primal experience "chronic fatigue syndrome," b/c as I come out of it, it becomes so clear that I was in it, even though at the time, I thought I just had a laziness problem. There's such a difference. And he said, "Why would anyone ever want to go back to all those grains when there's such a difference?" I was surprised to hear it from him.

                  Go, go, go, horsewoman! I know, the dairy thing is hard for me, too. I really didn't relish experimenting to see if I did better without it. I still don't know if I do, but I have only added 24-hr fermented yogurt back for now, so we'll see. I'm living on meat, veggies, eggs, yogurt, nuts, & fruit now - and that's actually a lot!
                  5'4" 39yo mother to five sweeties & married to their AMAZING DaddyGrok
                  Current Weight: 175lb__________________________________Goal: 135lb
                  Deadlift: 240lb________________________________________Back Squat: 165lb
                  Bench: 130lb__________________________________________Pre ss: 85lb
                  ***Winning a 20-year war against binge eating disorder***

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                  • #39
                    Thanks.

                    I'm feeling better off dairy, no more tummy aches.

                    I've been feeling quite down the last couple of weeks, was putting it down to seasonal issues which I get every year (I have a lightbox but it's not a cure). I am upping my vit D to 2000iu a day.

                    But I realised today also that I have gone back into body hatred and seeing my body as something I need to fight against. The seasonal stuff/ tiredness/ stress with my marriage and so on, but also because I am still not losing weight. It is hard to do Primal as an obese woman and not get sucked into that.

                    I need to refocus, I am doing this for my health. Sure I'd love to be 130lbs and go running again. But whatever happened to my body whent he gluten illness kicked in 6 years ago, means I just can't do it. My body doesn't want to lose weight and can't handle hard exercise. I walk and do yoga, try to pace myself, eat as well as I can, and that is the best I can do. Maybe one day it'll change- just get better with TLC or I'll get a diagnosis or something. For now I need to accept the situation and do the best I can to take care of myself, which includes treating my body with love and not seeing it as the enemy, and not feeling like I cant be happy until I lose weight.

                    I am planning some "Primal-ish" stuff for Christmas- almond meal apple and spice tarts, and shredded coconut and dried fruit and nuts mixed witrh melted 90% choc. My special treat will be a box of dark chocolate gingers. Having said that, I am having to cut right down on dark chocolate as well, it's just too much caffeine for my super-sensitive body, grrr! A little bit a day is affecting my sleep and my anxiety level.

                    Taking care of my body is like studying for a degree LOL. I have been having awful problems with pain in my shulders and neck, the worst thing was it affects my sleep and then I get down and struggle to cope with say to day stuff. I've finally given in and put myself on a short course of ibuprofen. Two days in, I am feelign much better. Except now I am coughing non stop as the ibu is triggering my asthma. Eye rolling time LOL
                    Gluten intolerance and hypermobility syndrome http://www.cfids.org/pdf/joint-hypermobility-guide.pdf

                    Eat food. Mostly real. Enjoy life.

                    Health, energy, wellbeing, vitality, joy, LIFE! Health At Every Size

                    "Do not ask what the world needs; ask yourself what makes you come alive. And then go and do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive."
                    Harold Whitman

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                    • #40
                      {{{Hugs}}}

                      Taking care of my body is like studying for a degree
                      I feel like this so often. It's mentally exhausting trying to track down what to do right, and then solve the little problems. I mean, I've gone primal, but am constantly fighting the fruit-creep even after 10 months, and still fighting bloating and fatigue. It's all BETTER, and much of what used to be issues physically is completely gone,b ut there is still much to work through.

                      BTDoingT with the body loathing, too. In the five years I spent gaining weight, I never bought any clothes. I didn't want to "reward" myself for gaining weight. The only things I had that fit were things my mother bought for my birthday or I got from my sister as she was losing weight. I still have this usually-subconscious feeling that (while I absolutely have an underlying deep joy) I'll really enjoy life fully again "once I'm thin." Maybe we could both use some company here from those who've fought this battle. I'm thinking of batty's thread, the "More than 100 to lose" group, some of the other threads where those of us who have/had a lot to lose have shared a lot here...
                      5'4" 39yo mother to five sweeties & married to their AMAZING DaddyGrok
                      Current Weight: 175lb__________________________________Goal: 135lb
                      Deadlift: 240lb________________________________________Back Squat: 165lb
                      Bench: 130lb__________________________________________Pre ss: 85lb
                      ***Winning a 20-year war against binge eating disorder***

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                      • #41
                        Thanks . Fruit creep- good term, and I know exactly what you mean, used to happen to me all the time on RR when I was off sugar. I am hoping cutting grains etc will help me handle it better, but we'll see, I may need to avoid it most of the time.

                        I'm happy to report I've kicked the body loathing to the curb. I mean okay of course I want to lose weight, and i don't love seeing myself naked in the mirror, but then I do have a body like a worst case scenario before consmetic surgery feature lol. I'm glad it's been a long time since I've felt I was waiting till I was thin- I think when I was ill and just couldn't lose weight, it forced me to re-evaluate how I was looking at things. In the end, I have gained from my weight gain. And I got to a place where I just had to move on with my life, from all kinds of stuff, parenting babies, marriage problems, health issues etc etc. I recommend a copy of "Fat?So!", best book ever on the subject!! It would be great to connect with that part of the community though, I do sometimes feel quite out of it as I'll never be a superfit and low body fat person (don't really have that as a goal, too much loose skin and sagginess already for a start!)

                        I totally understand your frustration with ongoing health issues. It gets very tedious. Right now I have some wheezing and ankle/ foot pain (shoulders are better though still a bit sore). But I know I need to be dairy free to feel better, so I can't really complain. But I am happy with how I am doing- will be celebrating 3 yrs gluten free (and I really mean gluten free, no cheats, I guess that's what happens when you know something makes you ill, and it's not addictive to you), and have been grain and legume free since August. Sugar next and then the remaining dairy (cream and butter, cheese just isn't worth the symptoms).

                        I am so relieved to be past the solstice and looking forward to the longer days. My yoga class will restart in Jan and I can't wait! Haven't been for a while due to various things (I was ill, teacher was ill etc etc).

                        I almost feel like I am counting the days till I can ditch the sugar and the dairy... well alomost lol, once I have eaten the grain free chocolate cake I am making for our family New year get together (complete with talent show as always!)

                        I've made myself some grain free Christmas food- tart with ground alomd and butter base, mincemeat (as in the british dried fruit stuff) and sliced apple, a grain free Christmas cake with coconut flour and ground almonds along with the usual mixed dried fruit, lemon, spices etc, and some chocolate nests with dessicated coconut, crystalised gingers, dried apricot pieces mixed with melted dark choc. Looking forward to ham for breakfast and the turkey fest tomorrow! Must stay off the stilton though!!

                        Originally posted by MamaGrok View Post
                        {{{Hugs}}}

                        I feel like this so often. It's mentally exhausting trying to track down what to do right, and then solve the little problems. I mean, I've gone primal, but am constantly fighting the fruit-creep even after 10 months, and still fighting bloating and fatigue. It's all BETTER, and much of what used to be issues physically is completely gone,b ut there is still much to work through.

                        BTDoingT with the body loathing, too. In the five years I spent gaining weight, I never bought any clothes. I didn't want to "reward" myself for gaining weight. The only things I had that fit were things my mother bought for my birthday or I got from my sister as she was losing weight. I still have this usually-subconscious feeling that (while I absolutely have an underlying deep joy) I'll really enjoy life fully again "once I'm thin." Maybe we could both use some company here from those who've fought this battle. I'm thinking of batty's thread, the "More than 100 to lose" group, some of the other threads where those of us who have/had a lot to lose have shared a lot here...
                        Gluten intolerance and hypermobility syndrome http://www.cfids.org/pdf/joint-hypermobility-guide.pdf

                        Eat food. Mostly real. Enjoy life.

                        Health, energy, wellbeing, vitality, joy, LIFE! Health At Every Size

                        "Do not ask what the world needs; ask yourself what makes you come alive. And then go and do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive."
                        Harold Whitman

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                        • #42
                          Okay, the Christmas food fest is over and I am ready to tighten things up. I am cutting out most refined sugar and dairy except butter for now. I have a bar of 70% choc and one of 85% and then I'll be back to my usual Lindt 90%.

                          Todays food-
                          B- 1 bacon and 3 eggs cooked in lard with broc, onion and tom

                          L- steak cooked in butter with spinach, onion and balsamic, bit of salad with rocket, red pepper and baby plum toms, 2 rows of Divine 70% choc

                          T- Roast beef, parsnip cooked in lard, cabbage and carrots, gravy with nothing added, baked Bramley apple with a bit of butter and dark choc in it, red wine

                          Feeling- terrible, feeling very woozy, headachy and spaced out! Had very little sleep last night due to it being New Year, drunken youths in the street shouting at each other, and a puking 8 yr old! Managed a 25min walk around the neighbourhood, that helped. Planning and early night.

                          My NY resolutions/ plans are paleo related- the food for a start, and my yoga class restarts in a couple of weeks and I'll be able to get back into my hiking and swimming once school reopens. I have resolved to relax more, read more fiction, and continue working on self-acceptance and finding the harmony between desire and non-attachment.
                          Gluten intolerance and hypermobility syndrome http://www.cfids.org/pdf/joint-hypermobility-guide.pdf

                          Eat food. Mostly real. Enjoy life.

                          Health, energy, wellbeing, vitality, joy, LIFE! Health At Every Size

                          "Do not ask what the world needs; ask yourself what makes you come alive. And then go and do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive."
                          Harold Whitman

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                          • #43
                            Forgot to add that veg oils except coconut and olive will be going. I haven't used them at home since Aug, but have been eating things with them in (like, um, crisps). So cutting out that processed stuff will automatically get rid of them too.

                            I'm starting making sure I have some coconut oil every day and planning to try coconut water kefir in hope it'll help rebalance my gut better than just probiotic capsules I've been taking. I've also added sea kelp tablets and upped my vit D to 5000IU a day after reading Robb Wolf's book. I already take magnesium so am continuing with that.

                            Here's to growing health in every way!

                            Today's food-
                            B- 3 bacon and 2 eggs in lard with mushrooms and tomato, 1 pear, 4 sq 70% choc

                            L- soup with chicken stock, swede, carrot, leek and onion, roasted salmon with lemon juice, 2 rows 70% choc

                            Snack as T will be late- can of mackerel, salad with toms, red pepper and rocket

                            6.40 White fish with EVO, lemon, leeks and bacon, glass of red wine

                            9.15 mixed nuts and glass of port (Xmas bottle, when it's gone it's gone)
                            Last edited by Horsewoman; 01-03-2011, 03:26 AM.
                            Gluten intolerance and hypermobility syndrome http://www.cfids.org/pdf/joint-hypermobility-guide.pdf

                            Eat food. Mostly real. Enjoy life.

                            Health, energy, wellbeing, vitality, joy, LIFE! Health At Every Size

                            "Do not ask what the world needs; ask yourself what makes you come alive. And then go and do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive."
                            Harold Whitman

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                            • #44
                              Day 3, had some cravings last night, to be expected with sugar withdrawal. Spent some time reading here and other paleo sites, found some inspiring blogs and articles.

                              It's harder to get out of bed when my stomach isn't screaming for food when I wake up LOL! Kids back to school tomorrow though.

                              9.30 3 boiled eggs, soup from yesterday with knob of butter added

                              1.00 leftovers of fish thing from yesterday, 4 sq lindt 85%

                              4.50 nuts, raw carrot

                              6.10 roast chicken incl skin, veg dish with aubergine, onion, tomato, carrot and herbs, dessert of stewed Bramley and banana with cinnamon and mixed spcies

                              9.00 glass of port

                              I thought I'd also post what I drink- decaf ground coffee, decaf green tea (I am very sensitive to caffeine), herbal teas including lemon and ginger, berry teas, nettle, fennel, camomile, mint etc. And plain water lol.

                              I ordered some water kefir grains today, looking forward to giving that a try. I really want to learn more about fermented foods, seems a nice counter to our modern day sanitised world and hopefully will help my gut to heal and rebalance.
                              Last edited by Horsewoman; 01-04-2011, 05:36 AM.
                              Gluten intolerance and hypermobility syndrome http://www.cfids.org/pdf/joint-hypermobility-guide.pdf

                              Eat food. Mostly real. Enjoy life.

                              Health, energy, wellbeing, vitality, joy, LIFE! Health At Every Size

                              "Do not ask what the world needs; ask yourself what makes you come alive. And then go and do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive."
                              Harold Whitman

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                              • #45
                                Happy New Year! Here's to it being your best ever!
                                5'4" 39yo mother to five sweeties & married to their AMAZING DaddyGrok
                                Current Weight: 175lb__________________________________Goal: 135lb
                                Deadlift: 240lb________________________________________Back Squat: 165lb
                                Bench: 130lb__________________________________________Pre ss: 85lb
                                ***Winning a 20-year war against binge eating disorder***

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