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  • Low carb athletes?

    This is a rather compelling post that explains why I feel like shit! It appears high intensity athletes like lifters, sprinters, people doing explosive movements need more carbs.

    I think I have been overdoing it and despite what any experts say about running on fat, no matter how many nuts, sardines and mackerel I eat, or how much in general I eat for that matter, I still feel drained, muscle fatigue would come so easily God dammit.

    Its because the ultra low carb is healthy for desk jockeys who get no exercise. Im not saying their lifestyle is good or bad, im saying low carb suits their muscles lack of need for aggressive intense contraction. Its also a sweet and long lasting fuel for endurance athletes and it is well documented that fat can sustain a marathoner just as well if not better than carbs.

    However, them muscles need that glucose for explosive POWER. Do not fear the carbs! As long as its not bread or sugar in the tea thats obviously not what I mean...I mean Im going to substitute some fats for some root veggies back into my diet and maybe eat some more fruit. Making sure I stay in calorie deficit.

    If anyone already already knew this I guess its kind of obvious when you think about it now I feel silly.... But I was totally sucked in by the primal and paleo dogma which is FUCK CARBS YOU SUGAR BURNER, FAT FAT FAT, FEEL TIRED? CARB FLU MATE IT WILL BE OVER ONCE YOU'VE MADE THE SWITCH!

    Hope this helps anyone feeling the supposed carb flu, which is actually your nervous system crying for help...or more specifically, carbs.

    Peace x
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    Forgot to post through post that inspired the post
    http://fitnessblackbook.com/diet-tip...ds/#more-14073
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    • #3
      Training hard on low carbs has been tried over and over and over again; it doesn’t work for athletic performance! If you keep intensity very low it can done with inferior athletic results, but what’s the point about doing that? It’s not only about glycogen/glucose but also about electrolytes and water balance; low carbs will dry you out for sure…
      "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

      - Schopenhauer

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      • #4
        Primal and paleo dogma isn't low carb. It's a small group of people who are stuck in the "if some is good, then more (less) is better" mentality. Marks carb curve is hogwash and that's been widely accepted here by many for quite a long time. Primal/paleo is a low toxin diet, not a low carb diet

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        • #5
          I certainly felt better once I put rice and potatoes back in my diet. I was so sluggish and my lifts were suffering. Now I incorporate more fruit and rice and potatoes as desired. And when I need to knock back weight, I maintain a caloric deficit. Works for me physically and psychologically I'm happier.


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          • #6
            Originally posted by DeanPattinson View Post
            It appears high intensity athletes like lifters, sprinters, people doing explosive movements need more carbs.
            That's right.
            Don't let any low-carb disciples tell you differently.

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            • #7
              How does everyone here measure their carb intake? If at all? With packet foods its easy, it tells you grams of each macro, approximately.... but the only stuff I eat out of packets is nuts, what about the many fruits and veggies, do you just Google the nutrition of everything you eat and write it down? There must be a more efficient way to know surely
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              • #8
                I think in the beginning when people are just starting out with this lifestyle then low carb is a great idea, but then yeah, as you DP and others have said, once you get to the point of doing heavy lifting and sprints and other such athletic activities on a regular basis you need those carbs.

                I think also that people get confused between not eating carbs and not eating crap.

                Personally I'm only just starting (well, 12/14 weeks ago) to add more carbs back in to my diet, root vegetables mainly but I'm gonna crack on with some white rice as of Monday.

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                • #9
                  I don't want to be weighing out potatoes for the rest of my life so I have a simple rule. If I have been to the gym or in the half-hour before I eat carbs and days when I haven't I don't. Works pretty well for me. It's also a nice reward on leg day knowing that you can get home and demolish a whole bowl of Jersey Royals with a juicy steak.
                  Man seeks to change the foods available in nature to suit his tastes, thereby putting an end to the very essence of life contained in them.
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                  • #10
                    I think MaceyUK's approach is a good one. Thats what I've been doing (except I have a thing for sweet potato and butternut squash).

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DeanPattinson View Post
                      How does everyone here measure their carb intake? If at all? With packet foods its easy, it tells you grams of each macro, approximately.... but the only stuff I eat out of packets is nuts, what about the many fruits and veggies, do you just Google the nutrition of everything you eat and write it down? There must be a more efficient way to know surely
                      I don't measure my anything intake. when i'm trying to add some muscle, I stick to 2-3 portions. when i'm trying to lean out a little, I stick to 1-2 portions instead. works like a charm.

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                      • #12
                        Use a free diet website to calculate your calories, macros, etc.

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                        • #13
                          Low-carbing it was great for me when starting out and with getting rid of the blubber, but now that I'm doing Wendler's 5/3/1 4 times a week I'll eat a couple bananas, some rice and, say, an orange here or there on lifting days. I've no idea about my total caloric intake and only a very vague sense of overall macros, etc but turning the PB into a heuristic (eat when hungry, etc) way of eating/living instead of some elaborate tracking experiment has helped me stay the course for 3 years now.

                          Good luck OP and Grok on.

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                          • #14
                            I hate that I have to almost constantly try and cut weight for fights.
                            Im 18 and so at an age where im getting bigger and stronger and so heavier, yet they want me at near the same weigh I was two years ago!

                            Im failing miserably this time, 15 days to loose 6 kilos, scales wont budge,
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                            • #15
                              You probably need to go up a weight class or two. I'm sure it's possible to cut that 6 kg but you won't be capable of fighting my 3 yr old daughter afterwards. At your age I would hope that you won't do anything to compromise achieving your genetic potential in terms of development, you have a whole lifetime to get into fights.
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