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  • Walking 100kms in VFF's. Is it doable?

    Hello my fellow Groks and Grokettes.

    So I have signed up for the 100kms walk for Oxfam next year in April, walking around lake Taupo in 36hrs or less. I have never done anything like this before which is both exciting and daunting, luckily for me my teammates have done it before so a pretty prepared but they also live far away from me so I am doing the training on my own. I have read another post in relation to this and like him I want to do this as primally as possible (lack of sleep will be the hardest thing I think, for alot of reasons but mostly because it affects my descision making skills when it comes to what food I consume. ie if I eat the wrong thing I end up feeling worse. But hopefully by April I will have this more under control, the longer I am primal the better I get at it). I can't eat Bread (Gluten), so i'll probably want to take my own primal snacks.

    But anyways other than any other helpful advice anyone as I am wondering if I could walk it in my VFF's? I enjoying walking in them both on the flat/road and hills but my longest walk is only around 7kms so far. Has anyone walked longer?

    Also if anyone wants to support a good cause, please donate to my team (I will send photos)
    United Nations of Trailwalker | Oxfam Trailwalker

    I was also thinking of getting Grok t-shirts/ singlets for the team

  • #2
    if most of it is off road, you should be fine. most of the bad press i have come across with vibrams has been from impact injuries on man made surfaces. and yes i have had one myself when i was running. that said, i've walked well over 20ks at a time on dirt roads and not had a problem. obviously, i would do all my prep in the VFF or similar. even actual barefoot on the beach. i find i feel my calves far more so think about stretches. do stuff like practise walking up stairs with flat feet vs on your toes to help get the tendons used to stretching. also road surface, if you do have to do dirt roads. if they have been graded of recent that can be painful in VFFs and slow you down. i have some new balance minimuses which i much prefer and they grip alot better. VFFs i find not so hot on the grip and if you are on slipperly surfaces and are tired, that is also something to watch.

    best of luck with it!

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    • #3
      Hey Kiwi Grok, fantatstic goal. I biked round lake Taupo a few years ago - it is a LONG way !!!!!. I also have VFFs and have only done about 12km as the longest - so far. However that was totally on the road. Seaweed is right not so great when on the road, and yes my calves need a heap of streatching first.
      I am really keen to do the molesworth 84 km, but that is all shingle - so will have to look at a more substantial shoe for that.
      Anyway good luck in your quest
      Gwamma
      "never let the truth get in the way of a good story "

      ...small steps....

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      • #4
        Thanks for your feedback guys. I have found that walking on road in my vff sprints as been fine but I have had to build up to it and I sometimes start to get little blisters on bottom of toes when Iv'e been walking awhile and my feet start to sweat (that's what worries me more) and socks don't make much difference. Seaweed, I have Sport Treks so I wonder if that would be ok re: grip wise, they seem to work well on my short hikes up the hills. I guess I could take both pairs (which don't take up much room) and a normal pair of shoes (which do). I find my feet actually hurt more in tramping shoes now! weird eh

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        • #5
          gwamma check out the minimuses next time you go to rebel. the soles are much more protective. i would do a 84 k walk on shingle in them. screw ever running that distance tho. i have the KSO vibrams so i cant comment on the others. but it is the repetitive impact on man made surfaces that causes the damage. so you will most likely not notice that on small walks. the key prob is just to wear them all the time for a few weeks before the event and then you wont even notice. i have never liked tramping shoes. i have some tactical assault boots i wear when i go bush, they dont hurt my feet.

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          • #6
            I signed up for a 100 kms walk this spring. I walked in Merrel barefoot shoes, and had to quit after 50 kms because my ankles were not strong enough yet. I didn't have any problems walking through the night, and had enough energy to continue, but the tendons and muscles around my ankle hurt too much. Muscles adapt quickly, but tendons need time to adapt.
            Try to get strong ankles, and you should be fine!
            Turnstone's world - not really a journal...


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            • #7
              Originally posted by Turnstone View Post
              I signed up for a 100 kms walk this spring. I walked in Merrel barefoot shoes, and had to quit after 50 kms because my ankles were not strong enough yet. I didn't have any problems walking through the night, and had enough energy to continue, but the tendons and muscles around my ankle hurt too much. Muscles adapt quickly, but tendons need time to adapt.
              Try to get strong ankles, and you should be fine!
              Very True. My ankles are slowley getting stronger, they don't get as sore as they used too. hmmm I am getting excited now, I think this might just be doable and I am wearing my vffs EVERYWHERE now.

              I am going to try and do a biggish walk in them this weekend as part of the training but will have spare shoes in bag just in case.

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              • #8
                Kiwi-grok enjoy your walk. Are there lots of tracks through the Kaimais now ???
                Wasn't many when I was a kid, althou we used to do the waterfall walk a fair bit.
                Good thinking about the spare shoes. Enjoy that walk !!!
                G
                "never let the truth get in the way of a good story "

                ...small steps....

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                • #9
                  I did two half marathons this summer in my vibrams and was fine. I know it's laughable compared to your mighty 100km, but I think you can do it. I carried a camelback with a 70 oz bladder, too, and filled it with nuun tablets (electrolytes) as well as carried primal treats with me. 1 larabar lasts me 13 miles. There are all sorts of primal/paleo portable snack options these days. I really like gobites and larabars.
                  --Trish (Bork)
                  TROPICAL TRADITIONS REFERRAL # 7625207
                  http://pregnantdiabetic.blogspot.com
                  FOOD PORN BLOG! http://theprimaljunkfoodie.blogspot.com

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Dr. Bork Bork View Post
                    I did two half marathons this summer in my vibrams and was fine. I know it's laughable compared to your mighty 100km, but I think you can do it. I carried a camelback with a 70 oz bladder, too, and filled it with nuun tablets (electrolytes) as well as carried primal treats with me. 1 larabar lasts me 13 miles. There are all sorts of primal/paleo portable snack options these days. I really like gobites and larabars.
                    Hello Dr, 2 Half Marathons is pretty impresive to me!! mind you I am not much of a runner.

                    I do find running and walking the the vffs very different to one another with running being a bit easier/ more natural and comfortable but walking is becoming easier.

                    I have never heard of larabars and gobites, I wonder if I can get them in NZ. We do have primal bites but I find them a bit too sweet (even tho they are all natural and GF, dairy free etc they still have dates and brown sugar). I don't know what I will really need on the walk to eat as it will not be high intensity, just long and slow so I don't think I will need much carbs/sugar. I read a post about this and if I stick to primal foods I should just be burning fat (someone said to me they weren't doing it becuase they didn't want to lose muscle mass, would that really happen doing this event once even if I ate enough protein?)

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Kiwi-grok View Post
                      mind you I am not much of a runner.
                      Who said anything about running? LOL. I did Jeff Galloway's run-walk-run method. But a run for me is more of a painfully slow jog for most people. I only go 4 mph unless I'm sprinting. Add pregnancy and a 7 lb back pack on top of that and I was contentedly chugging along at about 3.5 - 3.7 mph.

                      larabars are bars made from nuts and fruit, and gobites are a new favorite of mine
                      GoBites: Healthy Snacks Delivered
                      LÄRABAR | Simple. Pure. Delicious. LÄRABAR

                      I dunno if you can get them in NZ, but maybe you could put together something similar.
                      --Trish (Bork)
                      TROPICAL TRADITIONS REFERRAL # 7625207
                      http://pregnantdiabetic.blogspot.com
                      FOOD PORN BLOG! http://theprimaljunkfoodie.blogspot.com

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                      • #12
                        Is this 100km all in one day? I can tell you that 30 miles in one day is going to hurt your feet no matter what you are wearing. 62 miles is going to really really hurt. If it was me, I would bring a backpack with a couple different pairs of shoes--as in totally different from one another--to change them up. Give the feet a rest, something new to work against, relief from blisters if you get them, extra cushioning for when it starts to hurt, extra flexibility for when the cushioning feels like too much. Extra socks, too, so you can change them frequently to feel fresher on the feet. Whenever there's a rest stop, take off your shoes and socks and let your feet breathe. You might even pack a pair of sandals. Good luck.
                        Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                        • #13
                          I have never heard of larabars and gobites, I wonder if I can get them in NZ
                          if you google there are stacks of homemade lara bar recipes as they are essentially just ground up dried fruit and nuts i think? we tramp on the almond cocoa balls recipe from MDA which is ground dates, ground whole almonds, cocoa powder and coconut oil. you can add in chopped bits of 85% choc and so on. remember to take some cushioned sticking plasters for blisters. i havent walked that far in one day. i have walked solid for prob 8 hours over uneven terrain ( silver peaks ). my feet didnt hurt, in fact i think i did it in a pair of workboots. there was a fair amount of hardcore bush bashing thru places without tracks and the odd incident getting lost in thickets of bush lawyer which slowed us down. all up it couldnt have been much more than 30k i dont reckon. if i was going to walk 100ks in a day, i would definitely train by doing some long long long 12+hr walks in said footwear. gelatin helps with ligaments too so i would get into that and the vit C and the magesium etc as part of my pre race nutrition.

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                          • #14
                            If you were going to use VFF, you might as well go real naked barefoot. Less chance of injury.
                            You have been walking almost barefoot and April is a long long time away. You can train and get your feet stronger.
                            Few but ripe.

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                            • #15
                              The farthest that I have walked in one day was 20 miles in hilly terrain at Mohican State Park in southern Ohio with my VFF. I used all of the water in my camelbak. And ate all of the apples, enjoy life trail mix, beef sticks and larabars that I had packed. By the time I was finished with this hike I was starving, and a 14oz steak was calling my name. I second the change of shoes. You will definately want your feet to dry out at some point to prevent injury. Good Luck!!!!

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