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    Hi,
    Just switched over to a modified (and soon to be 100%, I hope) primal diet and I box fairly seriously several times week, supplemented by running and weight lifting. I can manage the running and weights on my new diet, but I find that sustaining my energy during boxing workouts is trying. I get pretty light headed, prob a combination of fuel, the heat of the gym, etc. I don't usually eat before I work out but wondering if there's a magic bullet/snack that I might consider 30 mins or so before I train. I'm up at 5:30am and run to my gym, so my workout starts just after 6am. (Not much of an early morning eater, which is why it's posing a problem)
    Thanks!

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    You could try » Recipe: How to Make Your Coffee Bulletproof…And Your Morning Too The Bulletproof Executive

    That should be enough fat to get you through your training.
    I know what it's like to try and train with a full stomach when you are used to NOT training that way. It's sorta agonizing. The coffee might do the trick. Use decaf (or half caf/decaf) if you are worried about how the caffeine might effect your training as well.
    People too weak to follow their own dreams will always try to discourage others.

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    • #3
      Woah, that looks nuts! I don't usually drink more than a cup of coffee so perhaps I'd try it halved, but I still haven't wrapped my brain around all this butter eating (not that I need any incentives. I love butter) Thanks!

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      • #4
        Yeah - cutting it in half might be a good idea to start. It is "weird," for lack of a better term, the first time you try it.
        People too weak to follow their own dreams will always try to discourage others.

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        • #5
          Seriously, don't use decaf. That stuff is full of toxins, usually solvents from extraction, and always histamines or mycotoxins from using poor quality beans to make decaf. Decaf hurts performance.

          We have a couple powerlifters (1 world champion) and a couple MMA fighters who are on Bulletproof Upgraded Coffee as part of their regimen, but no boxers I'm aware of.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Evbois View Post
            Hi,
            Just switched over to a modified (and soon to be 100%, I hope) primal diet and I box fairly seriously several times week, supplemented by running and weight lifting. I can manage the running and weights on my new diet, but I find that sustaining my energy during boxing workouts is trying. I get pretty light headed, prob a combination of fuel, the heat of the gym, etc. I don't usually eat before I work out but wondering if there's a magic bullet/snack that I might consider 30 mins or so before I train. I'm up at 5:30am and run to my gym, so my workout starts just after 6am. (Not much of an early morning eater, which is why it's posing a problem)
            Thanks!
            My football coach when we used to run, do plyometrics, and lift weights from 6-7:30 before school always said "Invest in some bananas." I'll say the same thing to you. One, you want some fruit to hydrate and give basic carbs to fuel yourself in the short term. Two, bananas digest quite quickly, so they would be more ideal if you need something soon before working out.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Evbois View Post
              Hi,
              Just switched over to a modified (and soon to be 100%, I hope) primal diet and I box fairly seriously several times week, supplemented by running and weight lifting. I can manage the running and weights on my new diet, but I find that sustaining my energy during boxing workouts is trying. I get pretty light headed, prob a combination of fuel, the heat of the gym, etc. I don't usually eat before I work out but wondering if there's a magic bullet/snack that I might consider 30 mins or so before I train. I'm up at 5:30am and run to my gym, so my workout starts just after 6am. (Not much of an early morning eater, which is why it's posing a problem)
              Thanks!
              I box as well, and I was hoping to find other boxers on here.
              I haven't been primal for very long, and I'm in that beginners adjustment phase, still trying to figure out what's going to work best for me, but what I've been doing is having some fruit about 45 min. before my boxing training, and a sweet potato afterwards, along with other veggies and meat.
              I'm not shying away from fruit and starchy carbs at this point because, as you know, boxing training pretty much obliterates the fruit sugar and starches from veggies and sweet potatoes. I used to eat a ton of grains to fuel my training and recovery, and even with all of those carbs, I still lost a lot of weight. I'm hoping that primal carb sources will be enough for me.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by counterpuncher View Post
                I box as well, and I was hoping to find other boxers on here.
                I haven't been primal for very long, and I'm in that beginners adjustment phase, still trying to figure out what's going to work best for me, but what I've been doing is having some fruit about 45 min. before my boxing training, and a sweet potato afterwards, along with other veggies and meat.
                I'm not shying away from fruit and starchy carbs at this point because, as you know, boxing training pretty much obliterates the fruit sugar and starches from veggies and sweet potatoes. I used to eat a ton of grains to fuel my training and recovery, and even with all of those carbs, I still lost a lot of weight. I'm hoping that primal carb sources will be enough for me.
                are you the "counterpuncher" on rosstraining.com?

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                • #9
                  Yep.
                  I decided to give it an honest go and see how it works out for me.
                  I tried it before, but it was a half-assed effort on my part. My girlfriend is doing it, and feeling much better, so I decided that the only way to really know is to be openminded and give it a fair chance.
                  Even though it's only been a week, it's been good, and I feel better.
                  I boxed earlier today, and my punches were crisp, not forced. I felt like my body was working with me, not against me, and I felt like I could breathe easier and recover quicker between rounds. I had plenty of energy, and was still hitting hard at the end of my session. And I don't feel like I want to eat everything in the house.
                  I'm cautiously optimistic, but so far I've been pleasantly surprised at the positive changes that I'm feeling so far, and I'm eager to see where this way of eating will take my training, and overall well-being.
                  Good to see you here.

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                  • #10
                    nice. welcome. good to see you here too.

                    i'm glad to see that you aren't jumping right in to the low-carb paleo thing. it's not for everyone, and more than likely not for someone who is very active and regularly boxes. i'm sure there are people out there who would disagree, but there are a ton of very active athletes on this site who simply crashed doing the low carb thing and have found their way back to eating sweet potatoes, potatoes, plenty of fruit, and even white rice. some people do moderate carbs all the time. some do high carb on heavy workout days and low on rest days, and i personally simply alternate days of the week. you'll find your way. there are some very helpful and knowledgeable people on this forum, and a ton of people who aren't knowledgeable or helpful. good luck

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                    • #11
                      Thanks.
                      I scaled back my conditioning routine a wee bit while my body is adjusting to the switch. Dropped back to 2/3 of my normal volume, and will ramp back up to full volume (in small steps) over the course of the next two weeks.
                      What part of jersey do you live in? (it's cool if you'd rather not say).
                      Last edited by counterpuncher; 07-24-2012, 06:47 PM.

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                      • #12
                        As a very active person who's also into martial arts, my advice is, like others have said, carbs, carbs, carbs and more carbs. Bananas, plantains, potatoes, sweet potatoes, fruits, dried fruits, it all helps. You can play with timing as much as you like, but not with quantity (don't go low-carb).

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Winterbike View Post
                          As a very active person who's also into martial arts, my advice is, like others have said, carbs, carbs, carbs and more carbs. Bananas, plantains, potatoes, sweet potatoes, fruits, dried fruits, it all helps. You can play with timing as much as you like, but not with quantity (don't go low-carb).
                          Also don't skimp on quality, and keep in mind that we're talking non-toxic (or a hell of a lot less toxic, everything is "toxic" if you're a dumbass about it) sources, so that still means no breads, pastas, etc for the most part (I'd be lying my ass off if I said I NEVER eat those things - but I eat them strictly in social settings where I'm in don't-give-a-fuck mode, depending on the source, there's usually hell to pay - pasta gives me headaches so I'm mostly talking bread)

                          so yeah, stick to potatoes, WHITE rice (none of that brown shit, which by the way is disgusting, too bad people think its healthier) squashes, fruits, etc. Personally, white rice and taters are it for me. I'm not much for fruit, bananas loosen my bowels so those are out (sadly). Good thing I'm hispanic and love white rice!
                          I used to seriously post here, now I prefer to troll.

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                          • #14
                            Train Krav Maga 4 times a week (5 hours total) and I don't feel low-carb has hurt me at all. The key is finding what works best for you.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Evbois View Post
                              Hi,
                              Just switched over to a modified (and soon to be 100%, I hope) primal diet and I box fairly seriously several times week, supplemented by running and weight lifting. I can manage the running and weights on my new diet, but I find that sustaining my energy during boxing workouts is trying. I get pretty light headed, prob a combination of fuel, the heat of the gym, etc. I don't usually eat before I work out but wondering if there's a magic bullet/snack that I might consider 30 mins or so before I train. I'm up at 5:30am and run to my gym, so my workout starts just after 6am. (Not much of an early morning eater, which is why it's posing a problem)
                              Thanks!
                              When you say "Boxing workout" do you mean boxing for competition or fitness?
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