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  • #16
    I don't understand if it's a matter of grip why they won't accept VFF Treks or another somewhat lugged minimalist shoe. Also, if they accept the Bare Grips, then it seems more a matter of not liking Vibrams specifically than not liking minimalist footwear. I agree, it's silly.

    My partner just ran a trail marathon in his Komodos--it was a standard 42.2, but this course is used by the local ultra-marathoners as training for things like the Canadian Death Race and the Sinister 7, so it's quite difficult, not mountains but very hilly cross-country (and this year, a 20% DNF rate). No injuries or issues on his part. It's N=1 and unpublished, though.

    From what I know, both Sinister 7 and the Death Race have no restrictions on footwear despite having mandatory gear lists for safety.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Bananabonobo View Post
      Honeypig: that's the plan for now. mikeyt: if you read the whole thread, i've said a couple of times that I LOVE BARE GRIPS and i would totally have a pair - but they won't fit on my sasquatch feet. hence the rage.
      fair enough, I hadnt seen that and my inov8s are very narrow too. My merril barefoots are a bit wider, might be worth a try?

      and I was thinking about you on sunday as I hiked round Kinder Scout - how are vibrams on long, steepish but not crazy steep downhills? I found it really hard to avoid heel strike and was grateful for the little bit of bounce in my inov8s.... (but the rest of the walk would have been perfect for vffs - dry peat and nice grippy stones

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      • #18
        ooh, I can't say I know Kinder Scout --- errrr??? But on long steepish downhills I THINK they're fine - the parallel I'd draw is Rothiemurchus forest trails near Aviemore, maybe. Running downhill in them sure, sometimes my form was probably a bit more flailing than footstrike perfection but I felt pretty good. At least, I never noticed anything untoward about my shoes or my form. But then again, any bounce in my shoes for me is pretty much the first step to wrecked ligaments so if you've got a winning formula, I'd say stick with it. Re inov8s: I would donate a kidney for them to make me some size 6 superwides in baregrips or roclites or something. HEAR THAT, INOV8? A FREE KIDNEY!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Bananabonobo View Post
          ooh, I can't say I know Kinder Scout --- errrr??? But on long steepish downhills I THINK they're fine - the parallel I'd draw is Rothiemurchus forest trails near Aviemore, maybe. Running downhill in them sure, sometimes my form was probably a bit more flailing than footstrike perfection but I felt pretty good. At least, I never noticed anything untoward about my shoes or my form. But then again, any bounce in my shoes for me is pretty much the first step to wrecked ligaments so if you've got a winning formula, I'd say stick with it. Re inov8s: I would donate a kidney for them to make me some size 6 superwides in baregrips or roclites or something. HEAR THAT, INOV8? A FREE KIDNEY!
          Kinder is in the peak district, near Sheffield. Dont bother, Aviemore is about a million times better!!

          Have you tried the merrill or vivo shoes? My merrils are wider than invo8 (size 13 though... ) and apparently vivos are even wider!

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          • #20
            hey fyi guys.... i won! sort of.

            Clip from the email they sent me last night:
            'It may be too late but we have decided that in your case we would be prepared to allow you to wear your Vibram FiveFingers Bikilas. Although we do feel they are not suitable for running hard in over rough ground, you may find them suitable if you go steady.

            Here is an excerpt from the latest kit rules “In rare circumstances we may allow "barefoot" footwear but in every instance you must contact us before you enter as we feel that this footwear is NOT suitable for hard running over rough, steep terrain.” '

            this applies to all barefootwear - not just vibrams.
            it is a bit late at this point - the race is in 3 weeks and neither my partner nor i did any focused training for it (we assumed neither of us would be allowed, as she wears BareGrips) but i'll see what she says. either way, next year's on for sure, probably in spyridons. @Mikeyt: merrells fit mostly, but the wide size isn't over in the UK yet, and vivos just seem to be rare beasts here full stop. i'm tempted by the merrells but their lugging isn't on par with baregrips or spyridons, so i'm still hemming and hawing.

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            • #21
              Well done !! You can hold your head high, being one of the rare individuals that have the rocks to change the world, one bit at a time. All the best for the race !
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              • #22
                Best wishes, Banana--let us know if you run and how it goes, if you do run.

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                • #23
                  Bananab... How did the run go?! Funny how you just asked for links to a few stories to support your argument and instead you got a viral troll-sunami. Majority of humans eat what they are fed, and hate upon the few who ask for something better.

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                  • #24
                    WAAAAY late to the party here - but you were asking for examples of vibrams in high level competition...

                    I watched Ruby Muir of NZ race here in Utah at the Speedgoat 50k, she got 2nd or 3rd place in Vibrams and is sponsored by them. She's tough! Oh and Speedgoat is a certified Skyracing event... definitely one of the toughest 50ks there is.


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                    I wear mostly minimal shoes but can't wear the VFFs because of my Morton's toe (long second toe). I was sad because when I went minimal and started with VFF sprints, my speed increased a TON.

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