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  • #16
    Originally posted by Timothy View Post
    The best martial art is one that keeps you out of bar fights.
    Ya, but suppose you are on vacation visiting relatives in Sarajevo and you're there drinking with the locals and this big Bosnian wants to ruffle feathers, what then? When you're in the Balkans, you should have some skills about you, and this is what it comes down to.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by dado View Post
      Ya, but suppose you are on vacation visiting relatives in Sarajevo and you're there drinking with the locals and this big Bosnian wants to ruffle feathers, what then? When you're in the Balkans, you should have some skills about you, and this is what it comes down to.
      I'd be worried about winning the battle, but losing the war when the Bosnian's extended family came back for revenge. Seems like nobody ever gets the last word in a Balkan skirmish, especially when Bosnians get involved. Archduke Franz Ferdinand decided to spend a weekend in Sarajevo and just look what happened.

      But I do agree with the need for skills, because you never know. I study shaolin chuan fa.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Timothy View Post
        Archduke Franz Ferdinand decided to spend a weekend in Sarajevo and just look what happened.
        I think I broke a rib with that guffaw!

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        • #19
          Not being a martial artist myself, perhaps it is out of place for me to answer this question. That said, the answer to the OP seems blindingly obvious to me: Gun Fu.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Timothy View Post
            The best martial art is one that keeps you out of bar fights.
            Great advice. I've found over the years that the more I've learned how easy it can be to inflict serious damage on another person, the less willing I am to allow myself to get into those situations.

            I recommend looking up Rich Dimitri and especially his books, which go into a lot of theory behind reading situations and de-escalating conflicts.
            But he backs it up with some serious knowledge what to do when it goes south, and more importantly when to act. Sometimes there's just no way to talk your way out and the best way to improve your survival rate is to go on the attack first.
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            Originally posted by tfarny
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            • #21
              rich dimitri recommendation noted, thank you.

              i see this myself, or i see it ahead of time, what is this called, i forecast, that once i learn the skills necessary to cripple a fool, i will probably never get a chance to execute these skills; this is the beauty of life.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by tplank View Post
                I think I broke a rib with that guffaw!
                Archduke had it coming; long live the Balkan shit hole i came from; i would never trade it if given a chance.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by dado View Post
                  rich dimitri recommendation noted, thank you.

                  i see this myself, or i see it ahead of time, what is this called, i forecast, that once i learn the skills necessary to cripple a fool, i will probably never get a chance to execute these skills; this is the beauty of life.
                  A wise man once said "it's better to have the tools and never need them, than it is to need the tools and not have them".
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                  Originally posted by tfarny
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by dado View Post
                    i see this myself, or i see it ahead of time, what is this called, i forecast, that once i learn the skills necessary to cripple a fool, i will probably never get a chance to execute these skills; this is the beauty of life.
                    ]
                    Aw.

                    And here I was hoping that learning to fight was going to make you insanely arrogant, and wildly over confident or something and you'd go and get yourself killed.

                    Do you want to die without any scars?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by DarthFriendly View Post
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                      Aw.

                      And here I was hoping that learning to fight was going to make you insanely arrogant, and wildly over confident or something and you'd go and get yourself killed.

                      Do you want to die without any scars?
                      Don't worry DF, you can take the boy out of the Balkans, but you can't take the Balkans out of the boy =)
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                      Originally posted by tfarny
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                      • #26
                        I'd add some weapons training and self-defense for the sake of self-defense type fighting. You're probably not going to be in an open area and they're probably armed so it's good to know when you're screwed =). My taekwondo school (go ahead and hate, haters) used to have a self defense club which was a combination of formal drills, chasing each other around with rubber knives/pellet guns, and guest instructors. One instructor worked for a prison so we covered firearms. One was a state trooper and 4-degree blackbelt who had these amazing release techniques. You could grab his arm with both hands, but he'd brush your wrist and your hands would let go even though you were prepared and knew he was going to escape. I wouldn't poo-poo ground fighting, either. You could be the best at stand & bang, but if you end up on the ground and don't know what you're doing, then lights out for you! Even if its just basic jujitsu or MMA-type stuff, if you knew a little defense and could pull off a quick arm-bar, that would end a lot of fights in a hurry.
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                        • #27
                          Pfftt!

                          My new fighting technique is unbeatable.

                          I call it SHARKTOPUS!

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by ottercat View Post
                            I'd add some weapons training and self-defense for the sake of self-defense type fighting. You're probably not going to be in an open area and they're probably armed so it's good to know when you're screwed =). My taekwondo school (go ahead and hate, haters) used to have a self defense club which was a combination of formal drills, chasing each other around with rubber knives/pellet guns, and guest instructors. One instructor worked for a prison so we covered firearms. One was a state trooper and 4-degree blackbelt who had these amazing release techniques. You could grab his arm with both hands, but he'd brush your wrist and your hands would let go even though you were prepared and knew he was going to escape. I wouldn't poo-poo ground fighting, either. You could be the best at stand & bang, but if you end up on the ground and don't know what you're doing, then lights out for you! Even if its just basic jujitsu or MMA-type stuff, if you knew a little defense and could pull off a quick arm-bar, that would end a lot of fights in a hurry.
                            Yeah, I like Filipino martial arts for the knife/stick work. It translates well to anything from a broken bottle to a machete or baseball bat, as well as empty hands. I'm much more likely to face a thug with one of the above than a handgun, so makes much more sense for me to spend time learning to defend against those. Of course, YMMV
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                            Originally posted by tfarny
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                            • #29
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                              • #30
                                Coincidentally I was looking to do the same thing a few months ago (street crime and muggings are on the rise here, like a lot of places) and have been attending Guided Chaos classes. The system is based around the fact that most brawls, fights, whatever are total chaos and generally over in 3-4 seconds. The style and theory make total sense to me - training from the get go to be totally flexible and not be tied to any rigid defence patterns as these aren't much use in the real world as attacks tend not to follow a prescribed pattern. After a couple of months, it's starting to come together a little so I am impressed. Clearly I am no expert in these matters but it's worth a look HOME - Survival Self-defense: Close Combat, ground, gun, tai chi fighting

                                Also I found Geoff Thompson's self defence book to be really good Amazon.com: Dead Or Alive: The Choice Is Yours: The Definitive Self-Protection Handbook (9780873649148): Geoff Thompson: Books

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