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    Currently I eat less than 50 grams carbs a day, mixed greens and raw veg mostly, losing weight fast. However, I want to work out HARD as my primary goal is not weight loss but performance. Having said that, weight loss is necessary.

    I have pure glucose, and am wondering the general stance on this as a post workout recovery carb source over sweet potatoes, etc...

    I realize that it lacks the other nutrients, but I am eating for one specific reason at this time, and that is fast glucose where it is needed.

    I think using real glucose has some advantages

    Certainly its fast into the blood stream

    You can precisely measure it

    You can easily mix it with protein

    I feel the nutrients lost by not using sweet potatoes here are made up for in my normal daily diet. My recovery meal does not need to lift this load.

    Opinions?

    I general as well I am looking for a basic guide on how much to use after sessions.

    If I am burning say an estimated 800 calories, I was thinking I would eat back about 25% as carbs post workout, to a maximum of 50 grams of carbs a day extra as post workout fuel. Basically, slightly over 2TBSP of pure glucose maximum.

    Opinions again?
    Original wt: 375, Current, 246
    Total weight lost, 130 pounds (Took 2 years)
    Weight lost first week of low carb, 7.1 pounds
    Current: Deadlift 450, Bench 255, Squat 365, Run 4 miles daily, boxing and conditioning work
    Goals: Deadlift 502 (5 plates a side with bar), Bench 312 (3 plates/bar) squat 402 (4 plates/bar), run 10 miles, bw 200 lbs
    Cows have 4 stomachs to make grass digestible, we have one stomach to make cows digestible, and with that, neither can eat grain and become healthy!

  • #2
    very bad idea imo. Your are already vlc so you are getting very little of the nutrients that come with primal carbs(pot, mag, some vits etc.) so by eating pure glucose over tubers you are doing yourself a huge disservice.

    Pure glucose is for elite athletes already eating 600+g carbs or for multiple training sessions in a day.

    TLDR- stick to potatoes, yams, sweet potatoes, fruit and squash.

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    • #3
      What are you doing for training?
      In all of the universe there is only one person with your exact charateristics. Just like there is only one person with everybody else's characteristics. Effectively, your uniqueness makes you pretty average.

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      • #4
        This is primarily a concern after my heavy lifting sessions. Squat, deadlift, bench, overhead press, dips, pullups.

        I am not concerned about carbing up after my other types of training. But if I do not carb up after a heavy strength session I regret it. I have always used dextrose or glucose and whey to good effect. I want to see if this conflicts in some way with the primal philosphy, and if so why.

        For me, every workout has one specific goal, and my goal for lifting heavy is to get stronger muscles. Which means to get them pure glucose as fast as possible after lifting, along with protein. My view is if I need more other minerals, I can eat the odd sweet potato, I can fit it into my diet. But how is that a better choice for a timed feed after lifting?

        I guess I am wondering why whey is good post workout because its pure and fast, but glucose is pure and fast, but not equally acceptable for the carb side of the equation. The reasons to use whey, and the reasons for glucose are the same. Fast absorption of specifically required elements for the drained muscles.
        Original wt: 375, Current, 246
        Total weight lost, 130 pounds (Took 2 years)
        Weight lost first week of low carb, 7.1 pounds
        Current: Deadlift 450, Bench 255, Squat 365, Run 4 miles daily, boxing and conditioning work
        Goals: Deadlift 502 (5 plates a side with bar), Bench 312 (3 plates/bar) squat 402 (4 plates/bar), run 10 miles, bw 200 lbs
        Cows have 4 stomachs to make grass digestible, we have one stomach to make cows digestible, and with that, neither can eat grain and become healthy!

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        • #5
          Not a big deal, but you'll be worlds better off with some roots and tubers.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by BSW View Post
            I guess I am wondering why whey is good post workout because its pure and fast, but glucose is pure and fast, but not equally acceptable for the carb side of the equation. The reasons to use whey, and the reasons for glucose are the same. Fast absorption of specifically required elements for the drained muscles.

            First off I don't think theres any conclusive evidence that whey is necessarily better than other prtien sources. You don't need fast digesting glucose PWO unless you are planning to workout again in a hour or 2, the glucose just refills your glycogen stores. You will receive all the benefits(prot/carb synergy) plus the added nutrition by eating fruit or tubers after a workout.

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            • #7
              Eat real food.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by BSW View Post
                I think using real glucose has some advantages

                Certainly its fast into the blood stream

                You can precisely measure it

                You can easily mix it with protein

                I feel the nutrients lost by not using sweet potatoes here are made up for in my normal daily diet. My recovery meal does not need to lift this load.
                Yep. Some of my recovery meals are white rice flour baked goods I make myself (with zero fat) and then the protein (almost always in the form of plain ol meat -- protein powder is sort of not yummy enough to keep me coming back). Nonfat dairy I dig as an attribute in a recovery meal -- they say whey and protein are better for recovery. I don't know who's right but sometimes I hedge and throw some in (but dairy is also said to be inflammatory and I've seen some evidence of that in myself, so its something I still debate about). Most days, its tubers and yams and fruits and real stuff with real nutrition. There's no denying that man-made foods are some degrees of junk.

                So, yeah for health I agree that real food will never ever do you wrong. And then for certain fitness and physique aspirations, some manipulation can be called for and, if you have no problem with it, eating industrial foods to carve out these particular results. Anyway, long story short, I am on your glucose train with you.

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                • #9
                  do yourself a favor & have some mashed sweet potato, made with heavy cream and cardamom
                  or sludge, or even a PB&J made with The Most Versatile Sponge Cake EVER! (recipes on my blog)
                  just some ideas
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                  • #10
                    Posting here to say that the OP's signature stats are off the charts.

                    /salute

                    keep up the great work sir. When you reach your goals you will truly be awesome to behold (already pretty awesome)
                    ad astra per aspera

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by TheFastCat View Post
                      Posting here to say that the OP's signature stats are off the charts.

                      /salute

                      keep up the great work sir. When you reach your goals you will truly be awesome to behold (already pretty awesome)
                      Oh my gosh, you're totally right. +10000 to you, BSW!!
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by TheFastCat View Post
                        Posting here to say that the OP's signature stats are off the charts.

                        /salute

                        keep up the great work sir. When you reach your goals you will truly be awesome to behold (already pretty awesome)
                        Thanks, I appreciate that.

                        In the end I stuck to my tried and true glucose for 2 reasons:

                        Convenience and low dosage needed, 80/20 rule and all that.

                        And I can keep it in my gym bag with ease

                        BTW, Lost 10 more pounds since the this was posted, so doing something right
                        Original wt: 375, Current, 246
                        Total weight lost, 130 pounds (Took 2 years)
                        Weight lost first week of low carb, 7.1 pounds
                        Current: Deadlift 450, Bench 255, Squat 365, Run 4 miles daily, boxing and conditioning work
                        Goals: Deadlift 502 (5 plates a side with bar), Bench 312 (3 plates/bar) squat 402 (4 plates/bar), run 10 miles, bw 200 lbs
                        Cows have 4 stomachs to make grass digestible, we have one stomach to make cows digestible, and with that, neither can eat grain and become healthy!

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                        • #13
                          Some of my recovery meals are white rice flour baked goods I make myself (with zero fat) and then the protein (almost always in the form of plain ol meat -- protein powder is sort of not yummy enough to keep me coming back).

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                          • #14
                            From the standpoint of overall health - my advice is, eat real foods.

                            From the standpoint of doing what it takes to work up to a 5 plate deadlift and a 4 plate squat without steroids, I have no idea and neither do any of the other people who've given you advice, except that you'll most likely have to stray from the basic primal plan in some way to reach such a lofty goal.
                            Good luck and keep us posted!
                            If you are new to the PB - please ignore ALL of this stuff, until you've read the book, or at least http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/ and this (personal fave): http://www.archevore.com/get-started/

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                            • #15
                              Thanks tfarny
                              Original wt: 375, Current, 246
                              Total weight lost, 130 pounds (Took 2 years)
                              Weight lost first week of low carb, 7.1 pounds
                              Current: Deadlift 450, Bench 255, Squat 365, Run 4 miles daily, boxing and conditioning work
                              Goals: Deadlift 502 (5 plates a side with bar), Bench 312 (3 plates/bar) squat 402 (4 plates/bar), run 10 miles, bw 200 lbs
                              Cows have 4 stomachs to make grass digestible, we have one stomach to make cows digestible, and with that, neither can eat grain and become healthy!

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