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  • If Grok were going to climb Mt Fuji....

    what would he pack for fuel??

    we'll climb Fuji in July - it's a 6 hour climb the first day, then we'll sleep a few hours before climbing another 3 hours to the summit for sunrise. Once it's daylight - we'll have a 5ish hour trip back down.

    food sources on the mountain, are very limited and very Japanese (of course): rice, noodles, curried meat if I'm lucky....This is a once in a lifetime experience - and I really don't want to spend it with stomach cramps and bloating from eating a bunch of rice that I'm not used to eating!

    cooking up sweet potatoes in the hotel room isn't an option.....so I'm thinking that taking something along the lines of Honey Stingers, Larabars or other such products may be my best bet? I should be able to get some boiled eggs and/or sashimi for breakfast before we start out - some fatty tuna might work out well...but the 2nd day, breakfast will be noodles - unless I bring my own options.....

    We'll be doing some hiking and such here on Guam before we go, to try to get a little ready (though there's no way to really train for the altitude and such) so I have time to test a few theories/protocols -

    just wondering if anyone has experience with fueling for long and strenuous hiking??
    ~Rhonda

    "Do or do not do, there is no try" - Yoda

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    turnip cakes
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    Eat creatures nose-to-tail (animal, fowl, fish, crustacea, molluscs), a large variety of vegetables (raw, cooked and fermented, including safe starches), dairy (cheese & yoghurt), occasional fruit, cocoa, turmeric & red wine

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    • #3
      Fastest trek across antarctica was done on a diet of bacon and butter. Just saying.

      http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28573093...-asia-pacific/

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      • #4
        I have no advice. I just wanted to say that this sounds like a fun, exciting trip that you'll always remember and I'm happy for you that you get to do this. I hope you can take pictures and maybe even share one or two with us. Mostly, though, I just hope you look back on this for the rest of your life with a great big smile. Be safe!

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        • #5
          eggs and sashimi are a great idea for before the hike, and i would say that carrying a few extra hard boiled eggs with you could really help out. other than that, larabars are great, as is jerkey, nuts and seeds, and maybe some dark chocolate.
          i don't even carry food anymore when i'm hiking, unless i know i'm going to be somewhere for more than 8-10 hours, and then it's food that is light, easy to carry, and does not require cooking or any equipment that will just add weight and time.
          also, climbing fuji--while i've never done it--does seem like an amazing experience. try to keep it primal, but take whatever you think is going to keep you going and enhance your experience...don't miss out on the mountain because you're concerned about the contents of a snickers bar
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          • #6
            I would in all honesty look at incorporating rice and or buckwheat periodically during your training. Know if your gut can handle it so that you arent faced with a bad situation of not enough fuel to get you through feeling amazing. This is a trip of a lifetime.

            Pack your larabars and other primal foods, be as primal as possible, but train your gut to tolerate the food that will be available. Will it likely be rice noodles or buckwheat ? If you can find out you can test in training.
            MTA: because it is rare I dont have more to say

            "When I got too tired to run anymore I just pretended I wasnt tired and kept running anyway" - my daughter Age 7

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            • #7
              I would definitely get used to rice

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              • #8
                Originally posted by primalrob View Post
                eggs and sashimi are a great idea for before the hike, and i would say that carrying a few extra hard boiled eggs with you could really help out. other than that, larabars are great, as is jerkey, nuts and seeds, and maybe some dark chocolate.
                i don't even carry food anymore when i'm hiking, unless i know i'm going to be somewhere for more than 8-10 hours, and then it's food that is light, easy to carry, and does not require cooking or any equipment that will just add weight and time.
                also, climbing fuji--while i've never done it--does seem like an amazing experience. try to keep it primal, but take whatever you think is going to keep you going and enhance your experience...don't miss out on the mountain because you're concerned about the contents of a snickers bar
                Thanks for the ideas - I'll keep monitoring the endurance forum for other products that might work out well (that's how I learned about the Honey Stingers in the first place)....

                I definitely agree with keeping the pack as light as possible. I'm already planning to suck it up and pay the 5 bucks for water at the top, to keep from carrying up more than a couple of liters per pack...

                So many variables will be out of my control (rain, cold, wind, etc) that I just feel like some pre-planning in the fuel area is going to pay off! The best I could get from our guide service is that "ramen" would be available - which is pretty general...but usually involving wheat noodles and soy sauce - two things I would rather not ingest if I can help it....however, I also know this isn't going to be a good time for fasting! perhaps as the date gets closer, I'll implement Runnergal's advice and start phasing in a little white rice, just in case....

                I'll definitely post pics of the trip - I wouldn't miss it for ANYTHING!
                ~Rhonda

                "Do or do not do, there is no try" - Yoda

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                • #9
                  In the scheme of things, it's not going to make a lick of difference what you eat on if you're not fit and well rested on the day.
                  Just take a bunch of lightweight, clean burning fuel of your choice that wont go bad or get squished in your backpack.
                  Don't forget to take some ibuprofen for the headaches.
                  And pack some Viagra for the altitude sickness - yes, I'm serious, look it up.

                  Good on you, I'm totally jealous..

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                  • #10
                    Haha, I think I can help with this one. I live in South Korea, visited Japan.

                    1: You can buy sashimi by fat content. So don't worry about that.

                    2: You can by sweet potatoes on the the road side. Go down any food street or traditional market and you can find white sweet potatoes. Its a very popular snack. (It is also common to eat roasted chestnuts)

                    3: Dried fish/cuttle fish/squid: You can buy this anywhere. Its all natural, dried in the sun. You can buy it at any corner shop, traditional market. It smells extremely bad, but the taste is good.

                    Basically traditional markets are great. You can buy almost any kind of food there. Definitely can find your sweet potatoes and much much more. ^^
                    Last edited by Nix; 02-13-2011, 05:09 AM.
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                    • #11
                      @Dave - VIAGRA?? really!?? how strange....

                      @Nix - I've been to Tokyo several times, there just aren't a lot of markets on top of Mt Fuji.....hopefully we can get some supplies picked up after we fly in on Sunday before we head out at way-too-early o'clock on Monday!
                      ~Rhonda

                      "Do or do not do, there is no try" - Yoda

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                      • #12
                        Two words: squid jerky. Its plentiful in Japan and I know I find it delicious, its also cheap.
                        Homo sum, humani nil a me alienum puto

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                        • #13
                          I'll give it a shot! sounds interesting - thanks!
                          ~Rhonda

                          "Do or do not do, there is no try" - Yoda

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by rkj1969 View Post
                            @Dave - VIAGRA?? really!?? how strange....
                            !

                            Strange, but apparently true.

                            http://men.webmd.com/news/20050201/v...itude-sickness

                            http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0624120556.htm

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                            • #15
                              i'm really surprised that nobody mentioned pemmican. it's what i plan on packing alongside jerky when i backpack this summer.

                              here's a good resource for grass-fed pemmican and jerky:
                              http://www.grasslandbeef.com/Categor...Grassland+Beef

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