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  • Question Re: Squats For Tall Mo'fos

    So i'm BACK IN THE GYM and i have a question regarding barbell squats for tall ass people. I'm like 6'4 and i find squatting to be uncomfortable most of the time. I position the barbell on my traps behind the neck, which could well be wrong, i've heard it's meant to be lower, but because of my long and gangly frame i find it just really awkward all together.

    So i'm wondering, to avoid any damage to my back or something, are taller people better off focusing on deadlifts and perhaps front squats?

    Need some opinions, i am also worried that it's just my particular form and lack of concentration the couple times i've done squats, because before my long break i think my form was better, and the squats felt less awkward. I think these last 2 times ive gone gym, i've felt like my back was bending too much.

  • #2
    I suppose that the length of femurs related to the length of your torso have more to say than how tall you are per se! I am 6.2, long legs and relative shorter torso, so my squat never became that good. I am pretty good at leg press though and my deadlift is decent also! Just wait a Little now before all those short legged dudes pop up to tell you how fantastic it is to do squats, no matter what...
    "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

    - Schopenhauer

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    • #3
      I believe in 'if it feels natural' so i might have to conceide on squats unless it is just my form that's hampering my efforts. I feel it just sits uncomfourtably and my arms are too long or something..

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      • #4
        Yeah, you can post a video and see if you’ll get some constructive feedback here. In my case squat has always been more of a lower back exercise, but I do them from time to time anyway, high bar, trying to take the lower back out as much as possible, which is a rather futile task…
        "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

        - Schopenhauer

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        • #5
          Exactly, i understand it works your core, and requires engaging it, but like you, my lower back might be copping a bit too much, and not enough on the legs which is the focus?

          I think i will treat it in similiar manner as you, stick with it for time being perhaps and just work on technique but if not much going for me, then it's better safe than sorry.

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          • #6
            I think giving up on squats just because you're tall is silly. I know a dude who's 6'8", played college basketball, and is a competitive strongman. He squats around 700.

            Train them. You'll be better off getting better at them than giving up "because I'm too tall".

            That's the "I'm not fat; I'm big boned" argument, just in squat form.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Mr. Anthony View Post
              I think giving up on squats just because you're tall is silly. I know a dude who's 6'8", played college basketball, and is a competitive strongman. He squats around 700.

              Train them. You'll be better off getting better at them than giving up "because I'm too tall".

              That's the "I'm not fat; I'm big boned" argument, just in squat form.

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              +1
              sorry, i think we were built for squatting. this sounds like an issue of just getting comfortable with form. it might take a while, but i think you shouldn't cop out. work on your form. go back to using no weight until your form is perfect.

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              • #8
                Well, Gorbag's certainly got my number on this one. I do have short legs, and I do think squats are valuable, but the internet has enough words in it about why squatting is a good idea, so I'll refrain from typing yet another treatise to the "king of all exercises."

                If you want to do them, post a video as he suggested and we'll try to help. If you want to be told you can't so you have an excuse not to do them, you won't get it from me, but you can probably still live a (mostly) happy and productive life.
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                • #9
                  There are lots of posts out there in the interwebz about people having problems with squat. Everyone of all shapes and sizes has some sort of problem, especially at first, but even further along. You just have to work on correcting it.

                  Recently someone posted a video of a competition between 4 lifters doing squat, as many as possible in a certain amount of time. The powerlifter was really tall and gangly. The bodybuilder was tall and build well. The weightlifter was short, thin and perfectly proportioned. The strongman was short and overweight. The tall and gangly powerlifter won the contest. His size was not a handicap at all.
                  Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                  • #10
                    Yeah, there is no anthropometry that can't squat properly. Some are simply more built for it (short legs), some not so much (long legs).

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by zizou View Post
                      Exactly, i understand it works your core, and requires engaging it, but like you, my lower back might be copping a bit too much, and not enough on the legs which is the focus?
                      Yeah, lower back gives out before legs getting enough strength stimuli and also impact overall recovery since hammering lower back hard will affect CNS more than anything else, that again leads to more recovery needed for all of your other training etc…
                      "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

                      - Schopenhauer

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                      • #12
                        I'll put more effort into getting the form down pat, and getting the brain pattern solidified. I do squat below parallel, i might just get around to posting a video, in the meantime anyone got a good guide from the web or a video on proper squatting?

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                        • #13
                          I am 6ft4in myself. I just started squats this month. They kick my ass... leave my muscles very sore. But this is only because I haven't been doing them. Done properly they won't fuck with your knees or back or anything. I use a squat-rack. I can't squat very much (yet) but as I continue to eat right and train right my numbers will go up.

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                          • #14
                            The internet is so goddamn retarded when it comes to squats its not even funny anymore.

                            When someone says that squats arent as useful for tall people its not at all about getting strong or not. Of course you can get a reasonably strong squat even with a suboptimal build for it. Its not about fear of injury either.

                            Thing is, its a fucking back exercise for people with the wrong proportions which makes doing both squats and deadlifts completely pointless unless you are trying to become a powerlifter with an official record. Its not about pussying around because your back cant take it, its about getting shit done for your legs before your back is completely exhausted.

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                            • #15
                              While heavy back squats may be a good exercise for many strength trainees it sure does not follow that it is an optimal lower body exercise for EVERYBODY – by far so! My lower back is pretty strong but it will always be the weak link when squatting, no matter what I am doing. So people with disproportional anatomy for doing back squats may indeeed be much better off doing something else for their lower body. Saying that everybody simply MUST squat for lower body strength, no matter what, is dogmatic and beyond stupid, even when it comes from strength “gurus” like Rippetoe or others…
                              "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

                              - Schopenhauer

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