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    As I showered today the soreness in my arms from yesterdays workout took me back to when I was a kid.
    I remembered how good it made me feel to flex my biceps knowing that they were bigger than most of the other kids in my school, I remembered how suddenly I became noticed by girls who would never have given me a second glance before.
    My bedroom was covered in posters of Schwarzenegger and some of the bodybuilding stars back in the 80's.......and a few of women as well, I was a teenager after all !

    The big screen movies were all about muscles and action with names like Schwazenegger, Stallone, Van Damme and Dolph Lungren topping the bill.

    Me and my buddies would look at pictures of Conan and Rambo before working out as if our lives depended on it. After the workouts we'd guzzle down a couple of pints of full fat milk each and work our way through a bunch of bananas while we discussed what were training the following day.

    Now days kids have posters of Justin Beiber and scrawny actors from feel good movies.

    Even the recent thread on this forum about what physique women like became full of swimmers and gymnast types.

    I can remember as a kid watching the Worlds strongest man on TV, it was always on over the Christmas holiday season with the finale being on new years day....that was one of the years highlights for me and my buddies.
    We had the World games which had Bodybuilding as one of it's main events.
    We had the wrestling which everyone watched back then, who didn't know who Hulk Hogan was !!!
    We had the Superstars TV series pitting top athletes from the relative sports against each other.
    We had The Gladiators, huge beasts knocking hell out of entrants half their size.

    The other year when my kid was still in school I asked him how many kids worked out to get bigger, he said none.....WTH !!!

    So are big muscles passť.............is this now the time when skinny nerds with black rimmed glasses and slicked back hair take center stage ?

    Last edited by OldSchhool; 10-28-2013, 12:00 PM.

  • #2
    1-using the word passť is passť. lol...

    2-i think that young girls always have some sort of preoccupation with boys who are built like them. hence the success of boy bands, bieber, etc. it seems unnatural to anyone with any measureable amount of testosterone in their veins, but it is the case. I don't think any sort of actual human being would actually prefer a "man" who looks like bieber or prefer to look like bieber. that's just my take

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    • #3
      It seems more like "skinny wussy" is the new cool thing to be lately. This pisses me off, generally speaking, since men should freaking be men, but I don't mind being stronger than like 90% of dudes I meet.

      I really do work out less for size and more for strength and health than I did, say, 10 years ago. I don't have any real need or desire to be huge, just in good shape and to where girls tell me how much they like seeing me shirtless.

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      • #4
        Quiet, all of you!

        Being scrawny is the way to go. If everyone starts strength training, we won't be stronger than the vast majority. Keep it quiet and promote weakness.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by not on the rug View Post
          1-using the word passť is passť. lol...

          2-i think that young girls always have some sort of preoccupation with boys who are built like them. hence the success of boy bands, bieber, etc. it seems unnatural to anyone with any measureable amount of testosterone in their veins, but it is the case. I don't think any sort of actual human being would actually prefer a "man" who looks like bieber or prefer to look like bieber. that's just my take
          Regarding 'passť '......I'll take that totally, just showing my age, LOL !

          Regarding the girls always preferring the skinny physique, that was definitely not the case at the school I went to. The big buff tough guys always got the best girls. Many of the girls even asked me for pics of certain bodybuilders to cover their school books with. This guy' Bob Paris ' was one of the most requested......he actually turned out to be gay but none of us knew that back then.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by not on the rug View Post
            1-using the word passť is passť. lol...

            2-i think that young girls always have some sort of preoccupation with boys who are built like them. hence the success of boy bands, bieber, etc. it seems unnatural to anyone with any measureable amount of testosterone in their veins, but it is the case. I don't think any sort of actual human being would actually prefer a "man" who looks like bieber or prefer to look like bieber. that's just my take

            Exactly, look at classic strong-men... they were side-show freaks and had wives usually from side shows. The typical guy either carried some fat that hid muscle or was wiry. Move past the Victorian and into the 50's and 60's, a lot of the guys had about as much muscle as current amateur female crossfit fans, look at the stars of the era... the feminine Beatles, Andy Griffith, Bogart, Gary Cooper, young Brando, Borgnine... not exactly muscle bound machines. Even the previously mentioned muscle-men of the 80's and early 90's were rare. Arnold and Stallone vs Bruce Willis/Tommy Lee Jones/Jackie Chan/Mel Gibson/Wesley Snipes.
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            • #7
              I think comparing skinny pop stars of today with bodybuilding movie stars of 30 years ago Is muddying the waters a little as the kids (especially the girls) will flick to whatever is pushed into the limelight by the music industry. You can go back 50 years and you'll be hard pushed to find a teenage heartthrob pop star that looked anything like a bodybuilder, so I don't see much of a change there.

              I know when I was in high school (some 25 years ago) the girls certainly weren't doing over bodybuilders but skinny pop stars and boy bands, while the boys idolised the movie stars work muscles, athletes or sports stars. Little seems to have changed there too.

              Tinsel town is tinsel town though. In the 40s to early 60s you had guys like Dirk Bogarde, James Stewart, Jimmy Cagney and John Wayne as the leading men, who were real men's men.

              Then came along Arnie, Stallone, Lundgren and the muscles from Brussels. But they were only really ever in the genre of action movies, so maybe aren't even comparable with the aforementioned leading men.

              The male leads of today are generally smaller, though I think more of a mix of the 2.
              From Ryan Reynolds, Matt Damon to Daniel Craig and Hugh Jackman and of course Dwayne Johnson who is not only representing the big boys of action but doing a pretty good job of crossing genres.

              I'm sure we'll see other big guys coming through again, everything is cyclical.
              Last edited by Misabi; 10-28-2013, 06:09 PM.
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              • #8
                I know a lot of guys that workout for bulk. Personally, I never really enjoyed lifting weights. Ive always been about bodyweight training, and it goes along well with my philosophies on functional movements and primal lifestyle. Im pretty strong for weight, and im cut as hell. Im not a big guy, but i hold my own and can perform movements most typical weightlifters struggle to comprehend.

                I do however hate the skinny boy look. JBeibs and the like are so soft, and idk how girls are attracted to these weaklings. Pullup or shut up.

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                • #9
                  Along similar lines of my previous comment...

                  Here is my Grandfather (right) and Great Uncle (left) in the late 30's/early 40's on the farm. My Grandpa paid his way through college leading up the war by delivering 50 and 100lb blocks of ice off the back of a truck to the iceboxes on farms when not working on the farm. He was consider in FANTASTIC shape.

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                  • #10
                    I think wide awareness of steroids has reduced the 'value' of big muscles.

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                    • #11
                      I love a guy with big muscles/strong. Shoulders especially, and glutes. I have no idea why women are so into very thin men. I'd be worried they would hurt themselves during sex.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by magnolia1973 View Post
                        I love a guy with big muscles/strong. Shoulders especially, and glutes. I have no idea why women are so into very thin men. I'd be worried they would hurt themselves during sex.
                        not all women, i wouldn't ven say most women

                        as to the bieb, his fan base is little girls, teen girls and young adults. according to my female relatives who are in that age range, he's described as 'cuuuuute' and one direction guys were described as 'beautiful *sigh*'. they like him because he's a pretty face and in their age range. older guys are though of as 'old, gross'

                        expand out of the bieber fan age range and women like all kinds of men. i knew a chick who was attracted to very overweight guys, most dated/married average sized guys. i like muscly guys
                        beautiful
                        yeah you are

                        Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
                        lol

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                        • #13
                          Bodies are low on my list of what's important in a partner: I dont care about muscles( or height), and maybe that's why I often end up with skinny guys. Downsides are not being picked up during sex, and being fatter than my partner. Other than that, I dont care!
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                          • #14
                            There's some pretty interesting psychology behind what body types men are attracted to based on environmental and sociological changes. I'm sure that it's the same or very similar with women. Personally I would think the reason why teens and young women are attracted to the Beiber types is because they're non threatening. Younger minds are more vulnerable and would be frightened more easily than say someone who was forced to grow up earlier or had to deal with "adult" (positive and or negative) situations. Our children have been spoon fed pablum from the media and have been told to expect everything should be given to them for free because they're special. This has created at least one generation of child adults so of course the attraction will be to less masculine men and less feminine women. Being a grown up is icky.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Iron Will View Post
                              Being a grown up is icky.
                              wiser words, dude. wiser words
                              beautiful
                              yeah you are

                              Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
                              lol

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