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  • If it hurts stop doing that!

    Sometimes we just don't listen. Our bodies talk to us. I know I ignore mine much of the time. I blame it on the "no pain, no gain" mantra and all those damn comeback kid type movies when the guy with a dislocated shoulder and broken leg still drags his sorry ass back onto the mat down 2 rounds to none and scores the knockout in round three to win it for team USA! If you ever seen "Best of the Best" you know what I'm sayin.

    Anyhow onto the silliness. Been doing a bit of higher rep stuff with leg extensions. Still doing compound leg stuff in addition. Had absolutely killer knee pain. Wake you up and not be able to unbend your leg type shit. Kept going though like an idiot. Figured I was just being a pussy. Tough it out. So now I stopped that crap and went back to pure compound lifts and in one week the knee pains are gone completely. Freaking leg extensions. That was it. Anybody else do some stupid exercise just cause it was in the program even though it was doing obvious damage? Just gutting it out?

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    Maaybe you should have warmed up your knees with some leg curls first? Many people get the same type of problems with their elbows when doing trÝceps extensions, but can avoid it when warming up with curls first! But I agree, if something seriously hurt, then your body try to tell you something...
    "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

    - Schopenhauer

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    • #3
      Eric Roberts over acting classic! I loved that show.

      Yep I know exactly what you're talking about. I was doing weighted dips at a different gym and usual. When I set up for weighted dips I start in the top position, set my shoulders and arms and begin with the eccentric. Well this gym didn't have a step so figured oh to hell with it I'll just jump to the top position I'll be fine! So I strapped 90 pounds on, hopped up, heard a pop and a crunch but continued to do 3 more full sets the same damn way!!! Took me three months of rehab to fix my teres, subscap and serratus so I could do dips and pull ups again. Stupid stupid stupid!

      And I tell people all the time, don't do it if it hurts!

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      • #4
        Yeah, I'm backing off on the bench press to let my joints thicken for a bit. Felt a mild strain and a very weak, dull ache - nothing worth mentioning, except that it's there! Might as well heal BEFORE I destroy. So for now back to bodyweight and maybe curls.
        Crohn's, doing SCD

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        • #5
          Runner's knee for me. Kept going through the pain and 4 months later I still have a problem. I feel it during squats and deadlifts but it's going to have to just shut up and put up with it. Much better since I stopped doing the 10 mile plus training runs.
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          • #6
            Thanks for the nice blog. keep sharing such ideas in the future as well. Sometime we ignore this sort of things and also suffer a lot as well. Thanks you for the tips.



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            • #7
              Leg extensions are a perfectly good exercise if good form and common sense are observed. Due to the bio-mechanics they can put quite a lot of strain on the knee ( as do squats at a certain point during their execution ) so stick with nice slow reps, long hard squeezes at the peak contraction and a nice slow negative. No crazy explosive stuff !

              I've said it before, all exercise at the gym is bad but it has to be done to elicit a positive response. Maintain strict form, study a little bio-mechanics and listen to your body. Aches and pains should then be kept at a minimum.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by OldSchhool View Post
                Leg extensions are a perfectly good exercise if good form and common sense are observed. Due to the bio-mechanics they can put quite a lot of strain on the knee ( as do squats at a certain point during their execution ) so stick with nice slow reps, long hard squeezes at the peak contraction and a nice slow negative. No crazy explosive stuff !

                I've said it before, all exercise at the gym is bad but it has to be done to elicit a positive response. Maintain strict form, study a little bio-mechanics and listen to your body. Aches and pains should then be kept at a minimum.
                Actually this is exactly how I do them oldschool.... I did about 8 weeks of the Mike Metzer split where you do leg extensions as pre-exhaust for leg press. I'm not saying the leg extensions are bad for everyone.... just that with my history apparently they don't work so well for me. Could be that the gym equipment is substandard as well. It's not like I'm using RenEx Equipment when working out at the local YMCA

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                • #9
                  Bench press hurts my shoulders. I have considered quitting them and doing other things instead. At the moment I just don't sweat the lack of progress too much.
                  Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Gorbag View Post
                    Maaybe you should have warmed up your knees with some leg curls first? Many people get the same type of problems with their elbows when doing trÝceps extensions, but can avoid it when warming up with curls first! But I agree, if something seriously hurt, then your body try to tell you something...
                    Interesting concept to warm up the antagonist muscle group first.... don't think I've ever read that before. I will say I've never done leg curls for a warm up, but I do a circuit as warmups of chins, dips and lunges.... then I don't bother with any more warmup sets when I get into the workout.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Iron Will View Post
                      Eric Roberts over acting classic! I loved that show.
                      Hahaha... classic 80's.

                      Last edited by Neckhammer; 10-26-2013, 08:01 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
                        Bench press hurts my shoulders. I have considered quitting them and doing other things instead. At the moment I just don't sweat the lack of progress too much.
                        Bench Presses can be problematic for many, I'm not even sure why so many people are so pedantic that everyone should do them. Try doing neutral grip DB presses and see if that's easier on the shoulders.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Neckhammer View Post
                          Interesting concept to warm up the antagonist muscle group first.... don't think I've ever read that before. I will say I've never done leg curls for a warm up, but I do a circuit as warmups of chins, dips and lunges.... then I don't bother with any more warmup sets when I get into the workout.
                          Yep, especially in all unilateral extension movements warm up the agonist first, if bench pressing do rowing movement first for warming up the posterior delts and lats, leg curls before leg extension, curls before triceps extensions etc. Many problems due to extension movements are due to hyperextension of a rather "cold" joint that produces inflammation and pain, chronically it produces tennis-elbow or runners-knee (as you probably got from leg extensions) or shoulder problems when benching or overhead pressing etc.

                          I read in a article that John Meadows also recommend doing leg curls before squats for warm-ups:

                          T NATION | Leg Curl First, Squat Later
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by OldSchhool View Post
                            Bench Presses can be problematic for many, I'm not even sure why so many people are so pedantic that everyone should do them. Try doing neutral grip DB presses and see if that's easier on the shoulders.
                            I guess part of me feels sorta badass doing them. I've considered giving up overhead presses, too, since I can't make progress at them, either. I'm getting nice definition (for me anyway) just staying stuck where I am. Come to think of it, I think trying to do pullups is giving me the definition more than the bench and press. I'm seriously considering just doing vanity stuff on the arms and sticking to squats and deadlifts and my pitiful attempted pullups for actual strength.
                            Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                            • #15
                              I feel much more badass doing one-armed pushups than bench presses And my shoulders thank me sooo much for it.
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