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  • Can't Fix My Legs. Doctors/PT's Won't Help

    I've been going to doctors and pt's for 8 years. Seen at least a dozen doctors and dozen pt's. It feels like my legs are out of alignment, like the upper and lower legs aren't oriented with respect to each other correctly.

    Every time I go to a doc or PT, they tell me that I only have minor issues, glute weakness, lack of stability, but it feels like major issues. I do glute work, stabalization work, etc, and nothing changes. In fact, everything only gets worse, slowly but steadily.

    I've consulted with well known names in the mobility game, and they've not been able to help.

    How do I find someone who will actually stick with me and help? I've tried the conventional doc/PT route, and it's been a utter failure. I have less than nothing to show for 8 years of work.

    I'm about to snap. Doctors don't care to do any digging into my issues. Neither do PT's. They just plop me into a set formula/program, and if that doesn't work, they send me away.

  • #2
    Is this something that is causing pain, or is it just annoying to you? Are there any functional problems? Some of the apathy that you get from Doctors is that any more than rehab/PT would probably be worse than living with what you have. If there truly is a misalignment or deformity of the bone the only recourse is either live with it or surgery, and surgery would likely leave you worse off than you are. Or at best in the same position as you are already in.

    Have you tried back squats? I have some hip and lower back issues that are greatly relieved by squats.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by workinprogress View Post
      Is this something that is causing pain, or is it just annoying to you? Are there any functional problems? Some of the apathy that you get from Doctors is that any more than rehab/PT would probably be worse than living with what you have. If there truly is a misalignment or deformity of the bone the only recourse is either live with it or surgery, and surgery would likely leave you worse off than you are. Or at best in the same position as you are already in.

      Have you tried back squats? I have some hip and lower back issues that are greatly relieved by squats.
      I can't squat, or at least shouldn't, due to this very issue.
      I get pain, but not a lot. My legs just feel all messed up. Out of alignment, and no one in the profession actually listens to me.

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      • #4
        Ummmm have you tried going to a chyropractor? If it is misalinment then there more likely going to be able to tell you and get it fixed.
        Also some are better than others so get recomendations before going.
        Every time I hear the dirty word 'exercise', I wash my mouth out with chocolate.

        http://primaldog.blogspot.co.uk/

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        • #5
          Originally posted by HelloMeteor View Post
          I can't squat, or at least shouldn't, due to this very issue.
          Actually, this issue is precisely why you should squat, if you can. Our bodies don't adapt to stimuli we fail to provide. I bet it would take less than 3 months under the bar to fix you completely.
          The Champagne of Beards

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          • #6
            I can't really help, just wanted to empathise with you. I also have this problem - with me it just seems to be lots of random (I'm sure they're not random, but to a layperson, they feel that way!) aches and pains. I've seen a physio, a sports masseur, and read lots on it and tried various things, but it feels like something new always crops up. I don't even work out properly now, just walk and stretch. I agree with the squats - going to try again to get into a routine with these and other strengthening exercises. I'm bad at routines....
            Have you tried yoga?

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            • #7
              I would suggest seeing a chiropractor who has experience with physical therapy and/or sports therapy. My chiropractor gives us exercises after an adjustment to help support the changes. Wall-facing squats are part of my prescribed treatment to keep my hips even, as well as lunges to stretch my hip flexors.

              Yoga would probably help over time, as well as to reinforce proper stance/posture & any adjustments made by a chiropractor.
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              • #8
                Try body weight squats first, or just using a 45lb bar. Yoga and swimming would be good things to try also.

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                • #9
                  If squats can fix Brian Jones's legs...
                  The Champagne of Beards

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                  • #10
                    Do you feel anything unusual when you put your joints through their range of motion? How would you rate the pain 0-10, 0 being nothing at all, 10 being the worst pain you have ever felt. Describe the quality of the pain, is it sharp and stabbing or dull and achy, or is it a tearing sensation. What is your overall tolerance to pain like?

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                    • #11
                      If your joint are out of alignment in such a way that they cannot be manipulated back to true, as in it's a physical condition you were born with, then I suggest using static contractions.

                      Performing static contractions means that you can progressively overload the muscles stimulating growth and correspondingly increase tendon strength without affecting the joints.

                      Last edited by OldSchhool; 10-22-2013, 09:10 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by RichMahogany View Post
                        Really, read the article and do the squats.
                        The Champagne of Beards

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                        • #13
                          With all due respect, I doubt a chiropractor would be able to do anything you haven't already had done.

                          A lot of times as a physician, you are only able to fix what you SEE and is verifiably pathological.....and not all diseases, or things that cause pain, afford you that luxury. If one cannot actually visualize a problem, then we are treating a ghost. We might as well make something up that way.

                          Some things just are the way they are, and are often years in the making. In your case, it might have been caused by years of underuse or not utilizing areas decades ago that caused incorrect alignment and tendon angles....it's sort of like asking "how you do you fix a hunchback?" Often these people are in pain, don't like how they look, are cannot do things they want to do. (Hunchbacks, for some reason I lack due to my lack of golf understanding, complain that they cannot hit a ball more than 100 yards, ever)

                          If I am asked what caused it, I cannot really just SAY what is often the true reason: "Yes sir, you spent decades abusing your spinal column, sitting way too much, never walking like you were designed to do, and overall not taking care of your health. For this reason, you have compressed your discs to the point that they cannot keep your shoulders erect."

                          The main two options are 1) painkillers, often opiates. 2) A strengthening regimen

                          I would try to following:
                          1) A squatting routine, even if it is with a PVC pipe or empty bar at first.
                          2) Walk. A lot. With very minimalist footwear.
                          3) Do light deadlift and hamstring work. The lower girdle and hip flexors are often the cause of what is thought to be knee pain.

                          Weight is not relevant to any of this at first. Give it a few months and see what happens.....good luck. I cannot imagine how rough that would be to have pain like that ordinarily.
                          "The soul that does not attempt flight; does not notice its chains."

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                          • #14
                            I went to loads of doctors and chiropractors for my lower back issues. I had chiro's try to string me along, some recommended that I get surgery, surgeons recommended that I get PT, this went back and forth for 10+ years. Finally found a Doc who treated sports injuries mostly, didn't do any surgery and sent me off to his PT with a plan specific for my back issues. It worked like a charm in 8 weeks even though I was carrying too much weight. I got lazy with my exercises and the problems came back. Then I went Primal, lost the weight, went back to the exercise and my back is as good as it is going to get and gives me almost no problems anymore. I had days where I couldn't walk, needed assistance getting out of bed. Today I rode the exercise bike, lifted weights and even did some jump roping.

                            Point being - the right Doctor is out there somewhere. If you are in the Portland area I highly recommend NELS L. CARLSON, M.D.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by RichMahogany View Post
                              Actually, this issue is precisely why you should squat, if you can. Our bodies don't adapt to stimuli we fail to provide. I bet it would take less than 3 months under the bar to fix you completely.
                              WRONG. That's what I've been trying. If I try squatting, I will end up injured. And it will feel like shi* every step of the way until I inevitably do get injured.

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