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  • Reaching my genetic muscular strength potential...

    Yep, I probably came close to my genetic limits already in my early twenties and after that I have lost and regained muscle- and strength various times. Certainly we never reach our limit 100 % but we can come pretty close to it, asymptotically. So it’s an limit to how much strength or muscle we can naturally put on our bodies and according to some experts like Martin Berkhan you can estimate your limits by subtracting “100” from your height in centimeter, and the number you get will be your genetic limits in kilos at 5-6 % body fat! Personally I am 187 cm tall – 100, and my genetic limits should according to Berkhan be around 87 kilo at 5-6 % body fat. Well, actually I am 98 kilo (216 lbs.) these days at 10 % body fat (or so I thought at least, but I may be wrong about that!?) when I should be only around 91-92 kilo!!! So something must be flawed here, maybe my body fat estimations are way off, or Berhams estimates are too low?

    What about you guys are you close to your genetic potential yet?

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    The pic i saw of you, you had good definition but no real abdominal definition so that would probabl put you at 2-3% higher then your estimation. I dont think Martins formula is meant to be entirely accurate, just a good reference point.

    Why dont you get on some Supplementation? At your age and level, i see no reason not to if you are interested in it.

    As for my limit, i have wasted a lot of years and am not even close. Luckily i still have a good decade before strength peaks.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Zach View Post
      Why dont you get on some Supplementation? At your age and level, i see no reason not to if you are interested in it.
      Agreed. If you want to keep performing at your best, you might want to look into TRT soon.
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      • #4
        Drugs??? Maybe after passing 80 or there about! Remember that I am still a very young guy at almost 51, but I may be a bit off about my bodyfat levels though, perhaps 12 or 13% then?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Zach View Post
          Luckily i still have a good decade before strength peaks.
          Roughly when does strength peak?

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          • #6
            The pic i saw of you, you had good definition but no real abdominal definition
            Some of that is just genetic. Muscles come in a lot of different shapes.
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            • #7
              Roughly strength will peak after 3-5 years of consistently lifting, but your lifting numbers may raise far beyond that due to neurological adaptions etc…
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              • #8
                Based on Zach's response i'm guessing there's an age (age bracket) where you are at your peak (potential peak, if you train)

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Greenbeast View Post
                  Based on Zach's response i'm guessing there's an age (age bracket) where you are at your peak (potential peak, if you train)
                  40 seems to be when strength limits reach max and slowely start to decline, at least in feats of pure strength. Athletism peaks much sooner, most are over the hill at 30 in any competitive sport.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Gorbag View Post
                    Drugs??? Maybe after passing 80 or there about! Remember that I am still a very young guy at almost 51, but I may be a bit off about my bodyfat levels though, perhaps 12 or 13% then?

                    I figure I'm around 14%, I'd say you around 11-12 %.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Zach View Post
                      40 seems to be when strength limits reach max and slowely start to decline, at least in feats of pure strength. Athletism peaks much sooner, most are over the hill at 30 in any competitive sport.
                      not. Take a trip over to transformetrics.com and check out John Peterson. 61 years old and still building more muscle, naturally.
                      you look good for 51, but nowhere near your max.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Mini_mi View Post
                        not. Take a trip over to transformetrics.com and check out John Peterson. 61 years old and still building more muscle, naturally.
                        you look good for 51, but nowhere near your max.
                        Where did i say anything about mass?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Zach View Post
                          Where did i say anything about mass?
                          Maybe I misunderstand what you mean by muscular strength potential. Strength and muscle mass usually correlate. Now there were some confusing parts to the post. The title says strength potential, then in the post you talk about body fat percentage. My bad on the misunderstanding

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                          • #14
                            Why don't you give this calculator a shot and see if its a bit more accurate. I think taking wrist and ankle into account helps.

                            The WeighTrainer - Maximum Drug-Free Bodybuilding Potential Calculator

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Zach View Post
                              40 seems to be when strength limits reach max and slowely start to decline, at least in feats of pure strength. Athletism peaks much sooner, most are over the hill at 30 in any competitive sport.
                              Thanks, seems like i've got 10 years to make the most of it too then!

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