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    I have one of these and always wondered if it really worked...well, now we have proof! The inventor, Eric, spent a ton of his own money to get a calorimeter test done while wearing his vests. Pretty impressive results (3X calorie burn). Anyway--you saw it here first, folks!



  • #2
    So do you have one yet? What is the advantage of the torso wrap. I understand the yoke design of the coolfatburner is focused on the concentration of BAT around neck/shoulders. Is the wrap around thing more about general cooling?

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    • #3
      I have two actually, an older one and a newer design. Both work great. I wear them while hill climbing on my treadmill. You can really feel your muscles tighten as you fight off the shivers. I figure if I do 45 minutes on the treadmill wearing my CFB it's the same burn as 1.5 hours without it. Any little advantage, right? Plus, if it is actually building BAT that's a huge bonus.

      The wrap-around seems to be a new design called a 'Gut Buster', not sure what it's all about, but I can imagine it would provide even greater cooling of the torso than the shoulder type.

      I'll try to get in touch with Eric at his site, maybe he can jump in and tell us about it...
      Last edited by otzi; 09-24-2013, 04:53 PM.

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      • #4
        I still have super slow fast internet, so I couldn't watch it but thanks for posting. I want to watch it as soon as our fiber optic gets here!
        65lbs gone and counting!!

        Fat 2 Fit - One Woman's Journey

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        • #5
          HEY ~ I didn't even watch the whole thing but ...WHERE DO I SIGN???

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          • #6
            Just another gimmick. Even if it did burn a couple hundred extra calories a day, wyou would have to continue doing it forever to keep the fat off. This is just like crash dieting.

            Better to find a sustainable diet, get lean and stay lean.
            Last edited by Zach; 09-26-2013, 01:06 PM.

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            • #7
              Hey, Zach - I agree, it is a gimmick, but one backed by some pretty strong evidence that mild cold will stimulate growth of BAT alongside upping the metabolism and some other things like insulin sensitivity. I was impressed that 'Eric the Inventor' did the whole UC calorimeter experiment and thought you all might like to see it. I would love to have access to a calorimeter for a few days to try a couple things out, I'm just not willing to spend any money on doing it.

              Not sure what, if anything, could be done to elevate gimmicks like the CoolFatBurner and cold water tanks from novelty to must-have, but I don't think the video was a fake and I think Eric believes in his product as a way to get lean faster. The guy looks in pretty good shape and doesn't eat paleo.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Zach View Post
                Just another gimmick. Even if it did burn a couple hundred extra calories a day, wyou would have to continue doing it forever to keep the fat off. This is just like crash dieting.

                Better to find a sustainable diet, get lean and stay lean.
                You know, that was my mother's argument against exercise: You'll have to do it forever to keep the fat off. Because of that, I wasted years of my life not exercising. It turns out that I love working out and have no problem doing it forever.

                ETA: I haven't watched the video, but if it really helps you burn a couple hundred cals a day, I'm all for it.

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                • #9
                  Watching the video now. My only concern is: how do you know that your body won't adapt after a while and pack on extra fat to deal with the cold?

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                  • #10
                    That is why people who live in very northern climates usually are not low bodyfat. Your body does adjust by adding in insulation.

                    People need to get away from the mindset that metabolism = cranking up calorie burn by any means nesseccary. It doesnt work like that and usually ends up with a negative outcome.

                    Otzi, i agree it was a cool video and his experiments are interesting. I just dont see the use in it. Cold exposure can be a good thing but inducing shivering for a long time does not seem realistic or at all pleasent.
                    Last edited by Zach; 09-26-2013, 02:52 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Zach - I think you are absolutely 100% right that prolonged exposure to cold will lead to a preferential storage of subcutaneous fat. Ever see a skinny walrus? However, I think that the cool fat thingy finds a loop-hole in that. It doesn't get into the chronic, prolonged cold exposure like so many people advocate (turn down thermostats, don't wear a coat, drink cold water all day long) he just recommends wearing it for a short duration while exercising to increase short-term calorie burn. Kind of a hack on CICO, if you will as it increases CO without much extra effort. I actually have one of these and wear it a couple times a month when I jog or do the treadmill, more in the summer. It adds about 5-6 pounds of weight and makes you tighten all your chest, arm, and ab muscles to fight the cold off. It's kind of a cool feeling (pun intended). I'm not going to jump up and down and say it got me ripped in 30 days or anything, but as a cool gimmick--it's pretty cool (pun intended once again). I also have some mini barbells I use, too. I don't think those make much difference, either, but it's fun to change things up.

                      I was really stoked though to see the calorimeter experiment in the video, I would never have guessed it ramped up the metabolism that much--I figured maybe like 10%--not 300%.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Zach View Post
                        That is why people who live in very northern climates usually are not low bodyfat. Your body does adjust by adding in insulation.

                        People need to get away from the mindset that metabolism = cranking up calorie burn by any means nesseccary. It doesnt work like that and usually ends up with a negative outcome.

                        Otzi, i agree it was a cool video and his experiments are interesting. I just dont see the use in it. Cold exposure can be a good thing but inducing shivering for a long time does not seem realistic or at all pleasent.
                        "Pleasant" isn't always the ideal pursuit in life. What if you thought of cold exposure as exercise instead? When strength training, I do not consider the moment I am at the bottom of my squat to be "pleasant", but I do it because I gain the physiological benefits of lifting heavy things.

                        Cold can produce similar, desired responses to us, the art of manliness names a few: 7 Health Benefits of a Cold Shower | The Art of Manliness

                        As far as your body adjusting by adding insulation, I disagree. Guys like Wim Hoff would be flabby, not lean: The Ice Man takes a cold dip - Inside the Human Body: First to Last - BBC One - YouTube

                        My own N=1 is the same, I am ~8%BF, and have been taking cold showers since 3/1/13. Recently, I've also started cold/ice baths as well. I have only gotten leaner. Muscle toning from shivering is pretty incredible. Its also great for relieving lower back pain from my desk jockey job.

                        Also, the science doesn't really work for your theory. I realize the numbers are never 100% accurate when talking about calories, but speaking in general terms, if you spend an hour/day in a cold situation that results in lets say an extra 300 cal burn, and do not consume an additional 300 cal then you are in a caloric deficit. This energy has to come from somewhere. If you repeat this every day, the deficit will continue, which wouldn't allow an opportunity for your body to "add insulation".

                        I do agree that the CFB is a gimic, but in the sense that its merely an expensive, fancy ice pack. I believe the cold exposure it generates, and increases in metabolic rate are real though.

                        For more information, check out Ray Cronise's work at Thermogenex - Fuel the Burn |. He purchased his own calorimeter and has been doing cold/water testing related to metabolism.

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                        • #13
                          My experience with prolonged cold exposure was that it made me HONGRY. Led to overeating and some weight gain. Using the cold pack vest is no where near that intense, and is actually very refreshing. In the winter, my garage is usually about 40-45 degrees, perfect a run (or hill climb) on the treadmill. In the summer, it's usually 75-80 in there, so I wear the ice vest.

                          Really, the only thing 'gimmicky' is the name CoolFatBurner, but he had to call it something, right? If he'd have called it the Ice Pack Equipped Sleeveless Overgarment For Enhanced Calorie Burning, it may have been more truthful, but way less cool.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Zach View Post
                            Just another gimmick. Even if it did burn a couple hundred extra calories a day, wyou would have to continue doing it forever to keep the fat off. This is just like crash dieting.

                            Better to find a sustainable diet, get lean and stay lean.
                            Uuuuh...yah. Good point!

                            But you know when you have like 3-4 pounds to lose something like this sounds really good! But you're right. You men just don't know how hard women have it!!!
                            Last edited by JULIEQUICKrunner; 09-26-2013, 06:55 PM.

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