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    Hunting (or activities that replicate it) is one of the most engaging and rewarding ways to get outside and get some primal - type movements such as walking and liifting, awareness of your surroundings, etc.

    Is there a way to build more hunting-type activites into our modern lives? I'm just looking for ideas.

    I once took part in a search and rescue service and it was a massive buzz, I think because the psychology of hunting is so compelling and draws you in. I'm sure if we could tap into this expereince in other ways it would be hugely beneficial.

    Any thoughts?
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    Well, if it meant hunting with spears then yeah. But to just lie hidden with a hunting rifle isn't replicating much.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by ilovesteak View Post
      Well, if it meant hunting with spears then yeah. But to just lie hidden with a hunting rifle isn't replicating much.
      Come with me and follow an elk all over the place in high altitude, sneak in close enough for a good shot, field dress it, and pack it out on your back 200 pounds at a time, then let me know if it's work or not.

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      • #4
        I live in an area that allows me to hunt on a regular basis and I love it. Grouse and pheasant is one of my favorite hunts - walking through woods or prairie with a shotgun trying to kick one up. Deer hunting is tough after the kill, you need to get that meat back somehow!

        I also love to fish, which I do out of canoe that requires paddling so activity involved in way I do it. If I come to a nice spot and feel like exploring underwater (and fishing is slow), I put on my snorkeling gear and explore. See lots of fish, which could be speared if legal! Things like crawfish, clams, etc. all there for the taking.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Mr. Anthony View Post
          Come with me and follow an elk all over the place in high altitude, sneak in close enough for a good shot, field dress it, and pack it out on your back 200 pounds at a time, then let me know if it's work or not.

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          • #6
            Ever heard of Geocashing? It's not really the same thing hunting per say, but maybe you'll find it to be fun. Basically, there is an entire community of people who hides very small boxes holding things, in many countries all over the globe. Through forums, they share things like coordinates and/or clues, so that other people will be able to find them. They place little trinkets in them, and when people find the box they may take one if they put something else back for others. Some people track little 'coins' through the forums, seeing how far they travel. Quite fun.

            Mostly, people just hide them on some clever spot that is difficult to find but easy to reach, but there are some tricky ones too. Those of higher levels might require diving- or mountain climbing gear for example. Sure doesn't beat dragging an un-gutted moose through snary woods in terms of lifting things, but if you're looking for something to heighten your senses, try looking for a tiny box in the middle of a forest when all you know is that it's somewhere within ten meters radius.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Mr. Anthony View Post
              Come with me and follow an elk all over the place in high altitude, sneak in close enough for a good shot, field dress it, and pack it out on your back 200 pounds at a time, then let me know if it's work or not.

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              I'm in, though I may have to borrow a rifle. Where are you, and what are the requirements for a non-resident permit in your region?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Reindeer View Post
                Ever heard of Geocashing? It's not really the same thing hunting per say, but maybe you'll find it to be fun. Basically, there is an entire community of people who hides very small boxes holding things, in many countries all over the globe. Through forums, they share things like coordinates and/or clues, so that other people will be able to find them. They place little trinkets in them, and when people find the box they may take one if they put something else back for others. Some people track little 'coins' through the forums, seeing how far they travel. Quite fun.

                Mostly, people just hide them on some clever spot that is difficult to find but easy to reach, but there are some tricky ones too. Those of higher levels might require diving- or mountain climbing gear for example. Sure doesn't beat dragging an un-gutted moose through snary woods in terms of lifting things, but if you're looking for something to heighten your senses, try looking for a tiny box in the middle of a forest when all you know is that it's somewhere within ten meters radius.
                Sounds interesting, I'll check it out.

                There are apparently some deer stalking places you can go to in the UK but I don't know how much it costs, probably a lot. Its a way of having quality venison available - all the deers get butchered. It's some of the best meat you can get as they are practically wild animals. Sometimes I wonder whether that's the way forward for all animal rearing. Only trouble is, deer are very shy animals - having cows wandering around our forests would be more problematic. Anyway, I digress!
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                • #9
                  Although I do hunt whitetail deer, I actually don't care much for it. It's cold. I have to get up early in the morning. There's always lots of tedious or difficult chores around the camphouse that need doing. Gutting and skinning a carcass isn't the most pleasant process. It's all worth it, though.

                  Deer steak! Deer sausage! Deer jerky! Mmmmmmm...
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Mr. Anthony View Post
                    Come with me and follow an elk all over the place in high altitude, sneak in close enough for a good shot, field dress it, and pack it out on your back 200 pounds at a time, then let me know if it's work or not.

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                    I want an elk. It is so delicious - my favorite game meat! I don't hunt, but I've been trying to convince my brother to get me one for years. Those tags are expensive though.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Mr. Anthony View Post
                      Come with me and follow an elk all over the place in high altitude, sneak in close enough for a good shot, field dress it, and pack it out on your back 200 pounds at a time, then let me know if it's work or not.

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                      I have friends all over colorado (arvada, boulder, and aspen) and I'm thinking that maybe next summer or fall I will be driving out for a week or so. Maybe we can shoot some guns and/or some delicious creatures.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by not on the rug View Post
                        I have friends all over colorado (arvada, boulder, and aspen) and I'm thinking that maybe next summer or fall I will be driving out for a week or so. Maybe we can shoot some guns and/or some delicious creatures.
                        and/or? You gonna commit to serious practice with that recurve?
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by not on the rug View Post
                          I have friends all over colorado (arvada, boulder, and aspen) and I'm thinking that maybe next summer or fall I will be driving out for a week or so. Maybe we can shoot some guns and/or some delicious creatures.
                          Originally posted by jfreaksho View Post
                          I'm in, though I may have to borrow a rifle. Where are you, and what are the requirements for a non-resident permit in your region?
                          I'm in the SW Denver suburbs/foothills. I dunno what the non-resident hunting requirements are; never checked. I can look it up.

                          And yeah, people are always welcome to go with me and shoot any of my guns. I have a good mountain spot. Although in the current market, chipping in for ammo is appreciated.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by RichMahogany View Post
                            and/or? You gonna commit to serious practice with that recurve?
                            It's actually a longbow. I've been shooting it sporadically. The issue is that I actually don't have properly spined arrows for it. I have to hit the archery shop up and have 1/2 dozen made for my compound and 1/2 dozen made for the longbow.

                            More than happy to chip in on ammo

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                            • #15
                              I don't really know what kind of hunting involves lying in a thicket with a rifle waiting, unless you mean stand hunters.... This assumes you 1) Rifle hunt, a very short season for most anything, and 2) Have no idea how to actually hunt efficiently, which is by stalking.

                              All hunters know there are TWO kinds of hunters.
                              1) Meat hunters. People that rely on game for food, and couldn't care less about trophy heads on the wall. Usually very highly skilled, success rates above 50%, and use primarily bow or black powder.
                              2) Trophy hunters. The dickless morons on TV that hunt as a means to compensate. Usually overweight, unskilled "stand" hunters that require SEAL Team 6 long-rifles with scopes to kill anything. These scum hunt with no respect or sacredness to their quarry, and display their kills the way you'd put notches on your bed. They make a bad name for group #1, which is the actual majority in many parts.

                              Don't let those camoed out hillbillies on "hunting" shows fool you. That is not meat hunting, and it is not how people that rely on game for their meat hunt. It would be WAY too inefficient....that is how low-skill meatheads with .300 Winchesters hunt. (These are essentially military-grade sniper rifles if properly outfitted. If someone hunts anything but big-horn or elk with that, they are a joke) They make a mockery of the rest of us.

                              Myself and many others around me hunt with bows or black powder, because their seasons are many times longer. You CAN'T sit out in a thicket and hunt with these weapons; their range is just too short to allow it. You would have to be lucky enough to get it to within 30m by pure chance. That isn't happening....which is why REAL hunters wear white out suits or RealTree, and do a LOT of advanced scouting.

                              I know almost every animal food source within about 5 miles of my home. I know where the water is, where the bears are at what time of year, where the valleys are when the herbivores get nervous....then you go to the location where the weather and season dictates they likely are and stalk them. By this I mean you VERY slowly approach them and get within a good distance for a shot. I got a deer last year from probably 35 meters away. A moose I got with black powder from perhaps 25m.

                              My point is that the main part of hunting is orienteering and scouting your location. Learn where food is at different times of year, where there is water during a dry spell, a million little nuances....with this info you can get your hunting success to around 75% if you are a strong stalker and a good shot. (Stand hunters, like the bozos on TV or with their trophy deer, have about 20% in most areas or even lower)

                              To simulate hunting, you simply go out with a topo map and acquire this knowledge of the area. It is a soul-cleansing thing to do anyway.

                              Sorry for my hunting rant. I hate that when people hear "hunter", they think of those ultra-macho idiots that make TV shows about hunting.
                              Last edited by TheyCallMeLazarus; 07-10-2013, 01:40 PM.
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