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yes but they are standard ie. the same for everone (within a dozen or so catagey not just one .. ok I can live with that)
..not you lifting xxx saying its good and your strong, someone else lift cccc and person 3 zzz claming no they are strong .. which is all I have experianced / seen posted .. shit all over the place with all sorts of differing variables
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so, I was trying to aply a striped down base level physics type approch ... leg muslecs must lift a given weight to be called strong .... anything above them moving is part of "the weight" lifted. sooo, what absoult weight moved equates with strong? thats how I was framing the question. so to arive at a common fixed starting/mesurment point. (better a slight inacurate/simplfied point of referance ... but far far better then none)04/23/2012 Max Weight : 448 lbs
01/01/2014 Initial Weight : 428 lbs
06/23/2015 Current weight : 288 lbs
12/31/2015 Goal weight : 208 lbs
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Originally posted by BigChris View Postbut thso, I was trying to aply a striped down base level physics type approch ... leg muslecs must lift a given weight to be called strong .... anything above them moving is part of "the weight" lifted. sooo, what absoult weight moved equates with strong? thats how I was framing the question. so to arive at a common fixed starting/mesurment point. (better a slight inacurate/simplfied point of referance ... but far far better then none)The Champagne of Beards
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I can't remember the last time I saw something so simple made so complicated. There is no magical point at which someone is universally considered strong, just like there's no magical point at which a woman is universally considered hot.
There will always be some people who consider you strong, and some people who consider you weak. There are different measures of strength, and different compensating factors may or may not be considered. The strength standards tables provide nice reference points, but the numbers are probably somewhat arbitrary, there are other ways to measure strength, and strength is not the only goal for many people.
Just do what you can to improve what you care about, and don't worry about what the definition of "strong" is."Don't go in there, General, it's a trap! That's a grain chamber. It makes people like you into people like me."
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Originally posted by PrimalHunter View PostI can't remember the last time I saw something so simple made so complicated. There is no magical point at which someone is universally considered strong, just like there's no magical point at which a woman is universally considered hot.
There will always be some people who consider you strong, and some people who consider you weak. There are different measures of strength, and different compensating factors may or may not be considered. The strength standards tables provide nice reference points, but the numbers are probably somewhat arbitrary, there are other ways to measure strength, and strength is not the only goal for many people.
Just do what you can to improve what you care about, and don't worry about what the definition of "strong" is."All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being selfevident."
 Schopenhauer
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Originally posted by quikky View PostThis is a crazy discussion. Are we seriously debating if a guy who can squat 45lb is strong? I don't care how much you weigh, if you squat 45lb, you are weak.
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many seem to have missed the point that I could have said 100lbs 300lbs 50lbs the number on the bar that I chose was irelivent and arbatry (has no baring to what I can / can't do in real life) I simply used it as a number to try and make a point ... obviosly this consept is beyond you.04/23/2012 Max Weight : 448 lbs
01/01/2014 Initial Weight : 428 lbs
06/23/2015 Current weight : 288 lbs
12/31/2015 Goal weight : 208 lbs
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Originally posted by BigChris View Postmany seem to have missed the point that I could have said 100lbs 300lbs 50lbs the number on the bar that I chose was irelivent and arbatry (has no baring to what I can / can't do in real life) I simply used it as a number to try and make a point ... obviosly this consept is beyond you.The Champagne of Beards
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Your building a robot and are putting hydraulic rams from the knees to the hips
The torso of bot #1 weights 300 pounds so the rams need to be strong enough to lift that amount of weight.
The torso of bot #2 weights 100 pounds and you add 200lb pack  so the rams need to be strong enough to lift that amount of weight.
Same strength 300lbs capacity hydraulic ram can be used in both
It real is/was that’s simpleLast edited by BigChris; 06272013, 10:15 AM.04/23/2012 Max Weight : 448 lbs
01/01/2014 Initial Weight : 428 lbs
06/23/2015 Current weight : 288 lbs
12/31/2015 Goal weight : 208 lbs
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Originally posted by BigChris View PostYour building a robot and are putting hydraulic rams from the knees to the hips
The torso of bot #1 weights 300 pounds so the rams need to be strong enough to lift that amount of weight.
The torso of bot #2 weights 100 pounds and you add 200lb pack  so the rams need to be strong enough to lift that amount of weight.
Same strength 300lbs capacity hydraulic ram can be used in both
It real is that’s simpleThe Champagne of Beards
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maybe robot #1 dosent have to lift objects ... maybe thats why robot 2 exists.
hell this got so twisted and blone out of protion that even I don't know what my orgin point was goign to be. .. forget it ... repeta after me .. the fat guy is week the fat guy is week the fat guy is week ..there happy again.... now we can all go back to are normal/other converstionsLast edited by BigChris; 06272013, 10:24 AM.04/23/2012 Max Weight : 448 lbs
01/01/2014 Initial Weight : 428 lbs
06/23/2015 Current weight : 288 lbs
12/31/2015 Goal weight : 208 lbs
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