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    Does any one have black coffee before their morning fasted workout?
    & What's the pros & cons if having?
    Thanks


    London

  • #2
    It's a must for me. Not a morning person so getting up at 5am is not my favorite. I chug about 8-12 oz on way to gym in the morning. I see no cons.

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    • #3
      Pro: It gives you energy out of no-energy (=0 calories!) Con: It can upset your stomach or make you pee...
      "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

      - Schopenhauer

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      • #4
        Interesting to heAr more.
        I know keifer (cbl) talks alot about caffeine in his book and the relationship between training morning and ur insulin levels & caffeine.
        Didnt really understand fully .
        Anyone sum it up?


        London

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Ryancarter1986 View Post
          Interesting to heAr more.
          I know keifer (cbl) talks alot about caffeine in his book and the relationship between training morning and ur insulin levels & caffeine.
          Didnt really understand fully .
          Anyone sum it up?


          London
          I can't help with that. I don't overthink things. I like coffee. I really like coffee before I workout. I drink more coffee after I workout throughout the morning. Works for me.

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          • #6
            If you like it and it doesn't affect you badly during workouts, just drink the coffee.

            People over-analyse so much!

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            • #7
              ^^^^ love your frankness!

              My fasted workout doesn't usually happen until about 4 or 5pm....I find that it helps me be more pumped up to workout for lifting, but doing long cardio or met-con with a heavy diuretic in me makes me feel like trash. Do whatever though, it's irrelevant outside of how YOU feel.

              I agree with Allenete though...people focus so much on supplements, coffee, vitamins, and other peripheral stuff. It's actually pretty easy: Eat primal as much as you can, pick up heavy things and put them down a few times a week (in some form), and move a lot. That is the 99%. Whether or not my nightly putting my feet up on my ottoman is "hurting my fat loss" (this was actually written on here a few months ago) is not my concern....

              I squatted 3 inches from the ground with 100kg on my back earlier and am cooking turkey legs in my oven at present. I'll rest my legs however I want, thank you very much. "fat burn" that
              "The soul that does not attempt flight; does not notice its chains."

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              • #8
                Haha! Loving this thread. I agree that there's way too much overthinking when it comes to this stuff. Unless you're a competitor, it really isn't all that complicated.

                For the record, I work out at 6am four days a week, fasted. I have black coffee and BCAAs about a half hour beforehand. Then I have Primal Fuel after. Works great for me.

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                • #9
                  ALWAYS, unless it impairs your workouts, I have a cup even with cream and a pinch of sugar at about 9am...and take a serving of amino acids at about 10:30 and get to the gym before 11. Awesome workouts. Can't miss my morning cup, I used to over do it to get "Pumped up" but I would be soo fatigued after my first lift. So I keep it to just one cup.

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                  • #10
                    I REQUIRE COFFEE before my workouts.
                    Infact, my pre-workout is a banana and a coffee, that's it, Workout, consume food afterwards.

                    But I don't think I could do it without the coffee, yet I could skip the banana.

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                    • #11
                      I can "skip the banana" too if ya know what i mean,

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                      • #12
                        Pros: Coffee is amazing, and blah, blah, blah coffee is amazing.

                        Cons: Literally none.

                        I would say you're good to go!
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                        • #13
                          I find I workout better fully fasted. Caffeine would be an interference. HOWEVER, I sleep as much as I like, whenever I like; eat whatever I like, as much as I like, whenever I like and generally live life comfortably. So I rarely do AM workouts because I'm relaxed and reading or out "gathering", don't eat until 3pm, by which time my daily workout is done and am generally well.

                          I'd guess anyone who's being forced out of bed at an unnatural time in the morning may need it, though. Just use your supplements wisely.
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                          • #14
                            When competing in judo, I found that drinking very strong hot coffee and sipping ice water between fights raised my adrenaline and awareness and made me perform better. Maybe I should try it again in between the heaviest sets in the gym…
                            "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

                            - Schopenhauer

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                            • #15
                              The only con I can think of is over-taxing your adrenals. If you eat soon after training in the morning, you're probably fine. If you were fasting all day and working out intensely in the evening 6 days a week, it'd likely be a different story. Robb Wolf talks about this a good bit on the podcast when people ask about fasting. Fasting raises cortisol and so does caffeine. A little cortisol is good. Too much cortisol on a chronic basis can be really bad.

                              Robb has also talked about carb-back loading in regards to his situation which is training around noon. He says that Keifer recommends coffee as part of the post-workout meal because it promotes insulin resistance. So it makes your fat cells (and muscle cells) more insulin resistant temporarily. You're relying on non-insulin-mediated glucose transport to shuttle all those PWO carbs to your muscles (if you eat your PWO meal promptly after training).

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