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  • Steak, eggs, and StrongLifts: what can I expect?

    So I'm on day three of a religious steak and eggs diet (you know the diet if you read these forums!) along with StrongLifts 5x5. I'm on week 5 of the SL 5x5. Here's my question: what strength gains can I reasonably expect in 30 days? My currents lifts are still pretty weakish -- squat 190x5, bench press 175x5, etc.

    If I stick to this diet (LOVING it so far...) for 30 days, and lift faithfully, what should I expect to see/feel 27 days from now??

    Any feedback, thoughts, etc., is appreciated. I love reading these forums!

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    If you eat a ton you can expect to gain lean mass. If you only eat enough to maintain or lose weight you can expect to maintain lean mass and lose fat.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Neckhammer View Post
      If you eat a ton you can expect to gain lean mass. If you only eat enough to maintain or lose weight you can expect to maintain lean mass and lose fat.
      What he said 👍

      I'm looking forward to getting back into this in a couple of weeks.
      If you're interested in my (very) occasional updates on how I'm working out and what I'm eating click here.

      Originally posted by tfarny
      If you are new to the PB - please ignore ALL of this stuff, until you've read the book, or at least http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/

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      • #4
        constipation?
        Few but ripe.

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        • #5
          I'm modifying my plan from steak and eggs to more heart and carbs (nuts, mainly). Keeping plenty of eggs still. Heart has a ton of coenzyme Q10 which helps build mitochondria. And oysters which have tons of zinc to boost testosterone. So I'm basically adding energy-increasing and testosterone-boosting foods to steak and eggs. Also berries to reduce inflammation - from coffee. Gosh, I need to cut back on coffee again!

          The point is, you can expect to look good, but your gains may or may not be good depending on how your body takes the very low carb treatment.
          Crohn's, doing SCD

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          • #6
            right,I'm looking forward to getting back into this in a couple of weeks. thanks

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            • #7
              No, no constipation. Rather, perfect stools. Quite surprising actually.
              Crohn's, doing SCD

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              • #8
                Interesting. How many calories a day have you been able to eat this way?
                Few but ripe.

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                • #9
                  Who, me? Easily 2000, sometimes only 1800, but often upwards of 2500+. I mean, 1.5 pounds of steak (1200 calories) and eight eggs (576 calories) is already 1776 calories. Add cooking fats or more eggs and boom, up you go!
                  Crohn's, doing SCD

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                  • #10
                    You'll find out in 30 days. At this point you may realize that diets strictly deficient of certain macros aren't the greatest, if pure strength gains are your goal. If you want to maximize your gains with 5x5, there are better ways (like actually eating carbs as a normal part of your diet). I did 5x5 using the anabolic diet a long time ago, results where ok. I saw much better progress eating whatever the fuck I wanted to and using 5/3/1...

                    30 days? Try setting goals on a semi-annual basis. 30 days is nothing and I would expect you to see marginal progress. You're probably not going to add 20 pounds to your bench, if thats what you're thinking...

                    The moral of the story is, if you want the fastest strength increases, eat a surplus of calories (not shit tons) and make sure you are getting good primal sources of all macros.
                    "The problem with quoting someone on the Internet is, you never know if it's legit" - Abraham Lincoln

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                    • #11
                      Canuck did this on a caloric surplus and reported both strength and lean mass gains while losing fat. The holy grail has been found!

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                      • #12
                        I did pretty much maintenance (approx 2000 to 2300) and lost 1" off my waist, put almost 1" on my arms and increased my weighted pull-ups from 3 x 3 with 20kg to 7/7/6 with 20kg in 3 weeks.
                        If you're interested in my (very) occasional updates on how I'm working out and what I'm eating click here.

                        Originally posted by tfarny
                        If you are new to the PB - please ignore ALL of this stuff, until you've read the book, or at least http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Fernaldo View Post
                          30 days? Try setting goals on a semi-annual basis. 30 days is nothing and I would expect you to see marginal progress. You're probably not going to add 20 pounds to your bench, if thats what you're thinking...
                          You will probably find yourself ready to do something different for a while at the 30 day point at the latest.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Bagwell View Post
                            So I'm on day three of a religious steak and eggs diet (you know the diet if you read these forums!) along with StrongLifts 5x5. I'm on week 5 of the SL 5x5. Here's my question: what strength gains can I reasonably expect in 30 days? My currents lifts are still pretty weakish -- squat 190x5, bench press 175x5, etc.

                            If I stick to this diet (LOVING it so far...) for 30 days, and lift faithfully, what should I expect to see/feel 27 days from now??

                            Any feedback, thoughts, etc., is appreciated. I love reading these forums!
                            I am on the S&E but not doing strong lifts...rather more like 10-15 reps depending on body part. I have been increasing the # of lbs I'm lifting every 1-2 times I work on the same body part...and I do the same body part twice per week (arms & shoulders, chest & back, legs & butt & lower back).

                            Also, I eat mostly at a severe caloric deficit and I've been *gaining* muscle while losing fat (maintaining weight). It doesn't really make sense from a traditional caloric standpoint but I'll take it.

                            In other words, I think if you eat at a caloric surplus, you'll gain a LOT of strength. If you eat at a caloric deficit, you might still gain some strength but also lose some body fat.
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                            • #15
                              As Neckhammer mentioned I gained muscle and dropped fat during my 30 days. I was meticulous in ensuring that I was on average about 200 calories over my daily maintenance net calories. I had strength increases in all lifts but this probably would have happened on any diet as I employed an intense 6 day split body building type of workout and was very focused on progressive resistance. The combination of lean mass gain and fat loss at 61 years of age was the most exciting part of this diet. I definitely think the diet/strength training combination increases testosterone levels. eKatherine is correct in saying 30 days is long enough and you will need to change up and add some variety and then recycle the steak and eggs approach a couple of times throughout the year to get the best results.
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