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  • I got verbal abuse my entire life for my weight and my appearance from children at school, from parents and grandparents and strangers. Back then there was only one fat girl in school and at least it wasn't me. And yet I still got abuse for being, as it was painstakingly explained on a daily basis, fat and ugly.

    In my adult life, all the physical activity in the world has never made me thin. And believe me, I've gone to some extremes when it comes to physical activity.

    On the subject of fast food, I once lost 35lbs eating fast food every day at Carl's Jr. and Taco Bell. On the flip side, I have gone decades without eating any fast food and never had a miraculous weight loss.

    My skinny grandmother died at age 63. My skinny grandfather died at age 59. My other skinny grandfather died at age 70. My fat grandmother died at age 83. Even though I have battled weight my entire life, I have never broken a bone or sprained an ankle, never had a major illness, rarely ever got sick even before Primal, I've been ripped off my entire life on sick leave at work as well as the health insurance I never use. I'm built like a truck. Made to last. Cottage cheese thighs will come in handy as I'm eeking out the final months on my death bed, which will be at home when I'm 100 years old, not in a hospital.
    Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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    • Pressuring people to lose weight is also a good way to create eating disorders.

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      • Originally posted by 70in2012 View Post
        Pick up a statistical inference textbook.And then read about tail risk probabilities.
        And then engage in intelligent discussion.

        I know the underlying problem is a bit too difficult to discuss scientifically. So i would rather have a bit of fun.
        You're trying too hard to sound smart, and at the same time trying to make me appear stupid. These are symptoms of pseudointellectuals and/or douches.

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        • Oh...by the way, the reality is that the way we treat obese people has nothing, not a thing to do with concern about their health. No one in college was mean to me because they were afraid I'd get diabetes. Because they were nice to the really fat guy that smoked and drank. I mean, end of the day the 1-2-3 trinity of a man smoking, drinking and being morbidly obese is probably the same cost to society as the morbidly obese woman.

          The whole "cost of medical care" excuse for being mean to people isn't worth arguing because that's not really why we mock and treat obese people poorly. So whether care for smokers, junk food eaters or extreme athletes is a higher cost for society doesn't matter. We don't plaster pics of "fat Kim Kardashian" all over TMZ because we are worried about her heart health. We weren't nasty about Princess Sarah Ferguson because she was pricier to provide health care for than Princess Diana.

          We as a society are nasty to fat people because we need someone to be nasty about to make up for our own insecurities and question ourselves and like that minimally, there are people that we are "superior" to.... whether its appearance, morals or smarts. Fat and Ugly, Fat and Stupid, Fat and Lazy.

          So at least admit that when you roll your eyes or judge some fat chick in a bikini to be somehow "inherently" less than you, that you aren't doing it because you care about her health or because by some calculus, she costs you more tax dollars than the one next to her with an ED and some leaky fake boobs.

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          • Quite honestly (and I'm going to come off like a total asshole here) I think fat people are amusing and stupid. And I'm not talking about someone who is 10-40lbs heavy. I'm talking about the 50+ lbs overweight people. If you truly don't care about yourself enough to not get that fat and unhealthy, then why should I care about you? Same for people who smoke cigarettes or engage in other similar activities. People know the risks, but engage in the activity anyway. I feel that way across the board. Skydiving is awesome, but I don't feel bad for the guy who gets hurt or dies doing it. He knew the risks.

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            • Originally posted by not on the rug View Post
              Quite honestly (and I'm going to come off like a total asshole here) I think fat people are amusing and stupid. And I'm not talking about someone who is 10-40lbs heavy. I'm talking about the 50+ lbs overweight people. If you truly don't care about yourself enough to not get that fat and unhealthy, then why should I care about you? Same for people who smoke cigarettes or engage in other similar activities. People know the risks, but engage in the activity anyway. I feel that way across the board. Skydiving is awesome, but I don't feel bad for the guy who gets hurt or dies doing it. He knew the risks.
              So basically you're agreeing with Magnolia that you see it as a moral defect on the part of the obese.

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              • So, according to some people here, statistically speaking obesity, which is the leading cause of many chronic diseases weighs (no pun intended) on the ever increasing cost of healthcare equally as much as sports and recreation related injuries. Nice logic.

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                • Originally posted by not on the rug View Post
                  Quite honestly (and I'm going to come off like a total asshole here) I think fat people are amusing and stupid. And I'm not talking about someone who is 10-40lbs heavy. I'm talking about the 50+ lbs overweight people. If you truly don't care about yourself enough to not get that fat and unhealthy, then why should I care about you? Same for people who smoke cigarettes or engage in other similar activities. People know the risks, but engage in the activity anyway. I feel that way across the board. Skydiving is awesome, but I don't feel bad for the guy who gets hurt or dies doing it. He knew the risks.
                  You have no idea, when looking at someone with +50 lbs, why/how they are that way. You just assume it's because they don't care about themselves and are stupid.

                  Not all obese people are clueless, careless, gluttons. I gained all my weight after I was diagnosed with thyroid disease and kept under medicated for over 8 years. Everyone was shocked at both my diagnosis and my weight gain since I ate cleaner and moved more than almost all of them.

                  Even today, if my meds need tweaking I can gain 10-20 pounds very quickly without a change in eating or exercise patterns. So, I suggest to better yourself and your awareness, next time you look at someone with a weight issue, instead of instantly going to "amusing and stupid" flex your compassionate, understanding muscle.

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                  • Originally posted by marcadav View Post
                    You have no idea, when looking at someone with +50 lbs, why/how they are that way. You just assume it's because they don't care about themselves and are stupid.

                    Not all obese people are clueless, careless, gluttons. I gained all my weight after I was diagnosed with thyroid disease and kept under medicated for over 8 years. Everyone was shocked at both my diagnosis and my weight gain since I ate cleaner and moved more than almost all of them.

                    Even today, if my meds need tweaking I can gain 10-20 pounds very quickly without a change in eating or exercise patterns. So, I suggest to better yourself and your awareness, next time you look at someone with a weight issue, instead of instantly going to "amusing and stupid" flex your compassionate, understanding muscle.
                    You are obviously the exception to the rule. And I refuse to change the way I think because of an exception. In general, America is going the wrong way with shit like this. The exception to a rule should not dictate how the majority live. If your kid is allergic to peanut butter, then the whole school shouldn't have to ban peanut butter. If you were overweight because of a hormonal issue, thats a bummer. It is your responsibility to do the legwork and try to fix it. I don't need to look at every single beached whale and wonder if it because it is hormonal or cheeseburgers that did them in. Odds are, its cheeseburgers. Its not like I make fun of obese people out loud. I don't push them down in the sand. But I sure as hell am entitled to think whatever I want to think. And for the record, you have no idea how compassionate and understanding I am. You don't know what I do for work, or how I live my life
                    Last edited by not on the rug; 06-15-2013, 10:31 AM.

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                    • Originally posted by not on the rug View Post
                      Quite honestly (and I'm going to come off like a total asshole here) I think fat people are amusing and stupid.
                      MDA is my favorite discussion forum of all time.

                      I used to think this way. But the United States food supply, by calorie, is 60% sugar/vegetable oil/grains (USDA Center for Nutrition Policy report). A human child growing up in that extreme environment *is* going to be fat, before they reach the age of consent and can make informed choices. They start off in the hole.

                      However agreed, there are a lot of people who are stupid, and thus amusing.

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                      • Originally posted by not on the rug View Post
                        Quite honestly (and I'm going to come off like a total asshole here) I think fat people are amusing and stupid.
                        Just when I was starting to like you.

                        Well, to be fair I was/am amusing. I do not feel any smarter now that I lost weight though. Perhaps I am still waiting for the magic point where the fat loss equals intelligence gain.

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                        • Originally posted by canio6 View Post
                          I do not feel any smarter now that I lost weight though. Perhaps I am still waiting for the magic point where the fat loss equals intelligence gain.
                          Quite honestly (and I'm going to come off like a total asshole here) I think white carbs make you stupid.

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                          • i thought stupid people having stupid kids made you stupid
                            beautiful
                            yeah you are

                            Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
                            lol

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                            • Originally posted by KimchiNinja View Post
                              Brutally so, all over Asia....People will tell you to your face "you are fat", including complete strangers on the street or subway. It happens.
                              This reminds me of a story that my wife told me about when she was in Hong kong several years ago on business. She said that she was in a cab with several people from the office and they drove past a guy who was fat but hardly huge by American standards. She said that the women from the office where pointing and laughing saying things like "Look how fat he is! What women would want someone so fat!!" etc.

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                              • Yet another "exception to the rule" here... I was actually still quite hot in my swimsuit when I was diagnosed with my first chronic disease 15 years ago at 25... but medications and becoming unable to walk without assistive devices changed all that even though I ate only the cleanest version of 'healthy whole grains', fruits & vegetables, lean meats, etc.
                                I'm still heavy. I'm still on drugs because I have to be... even though I'm on a lot less of them thanks to Primal/Paleo helping to ease the symptoms of my now 2 autoimmune diseases(thanks 'healthy whole grains' ). I may stay somewhat heavy because 13+ years of autoimmune issues running riot has done some crazy shit damage to my hormones... you really have no idea if you have never dealt with a body that has a completely faulty system.
                                A year ago I couldn't walk even 2 blocks on my own reliably every day... yesterday I managed 10k.

                                You don't know what other people are dealing with when you are looking at them from afar with your feelings of superiority.


                                And what I keep seeing here over and over is "judgment of the obese" yet the women that are getting talked about as not looking good in swim suits may be FAR from obese.

                                The truth is that the little hotties that look the best in their swimsuits are often at the lower end of the healthy weight range.
                                It's just the truth.

                                If a woman get some age on her and her parts are sagging a bit, then is in the upper end of the healthy range she very likely will have some cellulite. She will be judged.
                                Add a few more pounds and put her in the "moderately overweight" category, which is actually know to be the lowest incidence for all cause mortality and not really any higher for any medical issues, and she will definitely have a gut, fat thighs, cellulite... look exactly like the fat lady in the bikini Choco posted, and the lot of you will be yelling OMG she's OBESE!!!
                                We're worried she's going to have a stroke at any second and run up our medical costs.
                                It's bullshit. Pure hyperbole.
                                “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
                                ~Friedrich Nietzsche
                                And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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