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  • LOL, North Carolina.

    And a lot of it is indirect comments. When you see an image of a woman with a body similar to your own called out as being unhealthy/unattractive OR worse yet, women with smaller and better bodies called out as being fat, it's not all that much different than being called it directly.

    Imagine being a 15 year old size 10 girl and reading all about how size 6 Christina Aguilera is a heifer. Or being a say, 250 lb woman reading about a 133 lb woman calling herself fat and sloppy.

    Now, men don't do this shit.... except dear Choco did.

    Now we can say "hey, grow a backbone" and that works for someone who is 39 with a list of shit to be damn proud of. But you know what, somewhere a 14 year old or a 16 year old is seeing this "body judging" shit playing out and not enjoying her life as much as she should. That just makes me mad.

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    • Originally posted by magnolia1973 View Post
      So Choco, in all honesty... fuck you, worry about your own god damn wardrobe.
      god, i came
      beautiful
      yeah you are

      Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
      lol

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      • I guess most of you guys have never read any women's literature. I have a BA in women's studies. It's actually a common theme about how a woman's body becomes a public object subject to all kinds of things. It's not as simple as just thinking fuck them, none of their business.

        I know what you are thinking now, but a women's studies degree had me reading more dead white men than almost any other degree other than philosophy. Plus I got to take pornographic film studies, which was incredibly rigorous and did NOT take the point of view that you are assuming that it did.
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        • Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
          I guess most of you guys have never read any women's literature. I have a BA in women's studies. It's actually a common theme about how a woman's body becomes a public object subject to all kinds of things. It's not as simple as just thinking fuck them, none of their business.

          In all seriousness, how does this work? Obviously, I am not a woman so do not know from experience, but how does one become a 'public object' and what exactly does that mean? Does it mean that 'the public' views it (the female form), comments on it, judges it, or something else entirely?

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          • it means that if you have a vagina, and you're not a 10/10, you're gonna have a bad time
            beautiful
            yeah you are

            Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
            lol

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            • Originally posted by bloodorchid View Post
              it means that if you have a vagina, and you're not a 10/10, you're gonna have a bad time
              Yes, I get the surface issue of it, but how is that different than many other things? Drive a POS car...some one comments. Are an overweight man...someone comments. Dress like crap...someone commets. How does that go from "some people are a$$holes" to "a woman's body is a public object"? Also, wtf is a public object?

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              • Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
                It's not as simple as just thinking fuck them, none of their business.
                Then what is the solution? Is there a solution? You can't control what other people think. You can only control what you think.
                The above should be viewed as complete and utter nonsense.

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                • Originally posted by canio6 View Post
                  Also, wtf is a public object?
                  I can't answer that, but can we all at least agree that a woman's body is, in fact, an object?
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                  • Originally posted by RichMahogany View Post
                    I can't answer that, but can we all at least agree that a woman's body is, in fact, an object?
                    only if in the proper polka-dot dress of course. indeed.

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                    • a woman's body is NOT an object it's a thing
                      beautiful
                      yeah you are

                      Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
                      lol

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                      • Originally posted by RichMahogany View Post
                        You're talking about me, right?
                        keep telling yourself that

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                        • Originally posted by magnolia1973 View Post
                          LOL, North Carolina.

                          And a lot of it is indirect comments. When you see an image of a woman with a body similar to your own called out as being unhealthy/unattractive OR worse yet, women with smaller and better bodies called out as being fat, it's not all that much different than being called it directly.

                          Imagine being a 15 year old size 10 girl and reading all about how size 6 Christina Aguilera is a heifer. Or being a say, 250 lb woman reading about a 133 lb woman calling herself fat and sloppy.

                          Now, men don't do this shit.... except dear Choco did.

                          Now we can say "hey, grow a backbone" and that works for someone who is 39 with a list of shit to be damn proud of. But you know what, somewhere a 14 year old or a 16 year old is seeing this "body judging" shit playing out and not enjoying her life as much as she should. That just makes me mad.
                          if you know its bs, then ignore it.

                          as for high school kids. they're going to make fun of each other no matter what. that's what kids do. the fat kids get called fat. the ugly kids get called ugly. the slow kids get called slow. the poor kids get called poor. its called life.

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                          • Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
                            I guess most of you guys have never read any women's literature. I have a BA in women's studies. It's actually a common theme about how a woman's body becomes a public object subject to all kinds of things. yadda yadda, so on and so forth....
                            this is what happens when we allow women to think for themselves. get back in the kitchen sbhikes and fix me a steak!

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                            • Originally posted by canio6 View Post
                              How does that go from "some people are a$$holes" to "a woman's body is a public object"? Also, wtf is a public object?
                              a public object =, to me, something everyone gets to mess with

                              why it can suck to be a woman, in my experience, is this;
                              at any given moment, your body will be touched without your consent. if you ignore it 'hey she likes it', if you don't make a big deal in order to move on quickly, 'hey she likes it'. if you get pissed off 'hey calm down you psycho bitch it's a compliment!'

                              you can and will be ignored by salesmen in favor of your thinner cousin, when you are the one looking for something

                              men will have conversations with your chest

                              people with penises will try to intimidate you just because

                              your entire worth as a human being is based on your bangability level. it ranges from outright dismissal, to public mockery, to 'riding a moped is like fcking a fat chick. it's fun but you wouldn't want your friends to find out'
                              beautiful
                              yeah you are

                              Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
                              lol

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                              • Originally posted by bloodorchid View Post
                                a public object =, to me, something everyone gets to mess with

                                why it can suck to be a woman, in my experience, is this;
                                at any given moment, your body will be touched without your consent. if you ignore it 'hey she likes it', if you don't make a big deal in order to move on quickly, 'hey she likes it'. if you get pissed off 'hey calm down you psycho bitch it's a compliment!'

                                you can and will be ignored by salesmen in favor of your thinner cousin, when you are the one looking for something

                                men will have conversations with your chest

                                people with penises will try to intimidate you just because

                                your entire worth as a human being is based on your bangability level. it ranges from outright dismissal, to public mockery, to 'riding a moped is like fcking a fat chick. it's fun but you wouldn't want your friends to find out'
                                I find it amusing that women think this only happens to them. Several times in this thread people have made mention of fat guys in speedos, in a manner which means it is not acceptable. Also, how many times have you had your stomach rubbed for 'good luck' or your shaved head groped because 'I just want to see how it feels'? I have customers at work talking to me know who refused to look at me 100 pounds ago. Judged on bangability...okay, and this is better than being judged on the size of your wallet? Ignored because you are fat...sure, all the time. Getting disapproving looks when you order food? Sure. Being asked, "Do you really need that?" When eating something...yup.

                                People are assholes. It is up to you how you deal with it.

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