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  • Originally posted by Slacker62 View Post
    I wish this hadn't been the first thread I came across after signing up here yesterday. I was born with a congenital heart defect which prohibits me from lifting anything over fifty pounds, including my own bodyweight. I really want to embrace the paleo/primal lifestyle but after reading some of the posts in this thread it sounds like I'll never be considered anything but a big fat wimp with lots of excuses.
    Please don't let the narrow-minded view that can permeate this forum put you off the benefits of living a primal life. People tend to only see things from their perspective. Able-bodied people have no viewpoint/frame of reference to see how their viewpoint or comments might impact people different from them.

    I have lived this lifestyle, my way (and I believe we all have to find our way), for over 3 years. I also am limited by the fact that I have cerebral palsy.. Because of the dismissive tone that can be prevalent here I offer my neurological/MRI findings:
    MRI--" Moderately severe central volume lose of the right hemisphere mid posteriorly,predominately parietal lobe as described. These findings are compatible with chronic, most likely congenital volume loss."

    Motor exam/ findings by neurologist--" The patient has noticeable disproportionate size of her left arm compared to her right in that it is smaller looking as if it belongs on a teenager or prepubescent person. There are obvious contractures at the wrist and it is held in a flexed spastic paretic position while walking. The left side shows especially distal upper extremity weakness and in the lower extremity shows mild weakness especially with a foot drop on the left feet. Gait shows a moderately spastic hemiparectic left gait with foot foot drop. Tandem walk could not be done.."

    What this says in my real terms is this-- my strength/ ability on my left side, especially in areas farther away from by brain, is severely compromised. I can not, bilaterally, lift ever increasing heavy things. And I will not lift heavier on my good/right side because it would lead to an obvious difference between my left and right sides.

    So, my point is this, you can find success by adopting a primal lifestyle that works for you. I am healthier, in the aftermath of applying the primal principals to my best abilities, than I was before I embarked on my journey.

    Finally, for all the able-bodied, self-righteous, lifting heavy is the only way, perspectives that seem to permeate this forum I offer the following: You never know the specific circumstances of the people trying to find their way in this lifestyle and on this forum. It would be helpful if your approach was more coached in global possibilities, rather than myopic viewpoints.

    We could all benefit from asking for specifics before a global response, that may not be appropriate, is given. I know I would like to learn about possible ways that could improve my abilities.
    Last edited by marcadav; 06-02-2013, 08:57 PM.

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    • i guess i should be nice and chime in too

      slacker, i have permanently broken bones that make life supremely difficult if i were to work out anything other than my arms rather than just rather difficult on a lazy day. i don't take this thread seriously and i hope you stop taking it seriously too

      granted i'm a girl, but i like to think if i were a guy my penis would be big enough i wouldn't take it seriously then either
      beautiful
      yeah you are

      Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
      lol

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      • Maori are quite robust people.

        I think it's because of the environment. it's cold here, and they mostly dressed themselves in flax and feathers (largely cloaks). Most Maori live on the North Island, which is more temperate than the south -- a bit like northern california and up to Portland. And looking at them pre-colonization, they still had large bone structures and muscles -- they were bigger all around than some of their kin from other islands. They are an amazingly tough people.

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        • Originally posted by RichMahogany View Post
          Being stronger makes one better at pretty much everything.
          Except for having understanding of and empathy for others different from you.

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          • unless he be trollin in the deep
            beautiful
            yeah you are

            Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
            lol

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            • Originally posted by Geeknik View Post
              I married what I'm attracted to, a man that is intelligent, lean, attractive, well-dressed and kind
              Originally posted by AppalachianMatt View Post
              Its not a list of excuses its called overcoming a horrific injury to the back you jacka$$.
              Originally posted by PrimalHunter View Post
              As to why more men don't lift weights, I guess the biggest reason is that it's just not their thing. Just like many guys don't care about being rich, or having kids, or spelunking, or running for political office, many guys just don't care about the iron game.
              And if you question any of it, you're a pussy.
              Originally posted by zoebird View Post
              wow, a thread rife with all sorts of gender shaming.
              reality is, people have different interests regardless of gender.
              Originally posted by Allenete View Post
              Wow this thread is both amusing and horrifying.
              Saying men should/shouldn't be something...? I get angry at that just as much as I'd get angry at someone saying that a woman should provide her man with a hot meal when he gets home from work. Or that a real woman should have curves.
              Originally posted by YogaBare View Post
              This thread is ridiculous. Jeeze louise - Lift if you want to, don't if you don't. I'll take being down-to-earth over brains or brawn, thanks.
              Originally posted by YogaBare View Post
              Lifting weights isn't for everyone, and it doesn't suit some people. People who find it boring shouldn't force themselves to do it. There's an appropriate form of physical activity for everyone: it doesn't have to be lifting.
              Wow. What a trainwreck thread.

              I see weight lifting from the perspective of someone who used to do a lot of it (competition body building back in the day) to someone who now hasn't set foot in a gym in ages and likes it that way just fine.

              So, to all the guys (and gals) sitting there smugly ridiculing the guy who is doing some workouts on the treadmill instead of pumping some iron, get over yourselves. You don't know what that person's situation is. He may have a back injury or other physical disability that keeps him from "getting under the bar" (love all the testosterone pumped up phraseology). Or perhaps weight lifting may just not be his thing. He may have been a body builder back in the day but now finds it boring.

              Or, get this, it may not be any of your business what someone else does or doesn't do for a workout.

              In any case, I think we can all agree that physical fitness is an important thing for all humans regardless of gender. There are many ways to that goal however. My SO and I are both lean and fit and can do what needs doing in terms of lifting a canoe onto the top of a camper and such and we can and do both climb mountains. Neither one of us lifts weights. Go figure.

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              • Originally posted by marcadav View Post
                Except for having understanding of and empathy for others different from you.
                You are correct, I was referring to an individual's physicality. However the more we understand about ourselves, the more we challenge ourselves and overcome obstacles during the process of becoming stronger, the more empathetic and encouraging we can be to others trying to overcome their personal challenges. . The most empathetic people I have known are those who have known defeat, known suffering, known struggle, known loss, and have found their way out of the depths. These persons have great strength and an appreciation, a sensitivity, and an understanding of life that fills them with compassion, gentleness, and a deep loving concern. It is the challenges that life presents that enables us to be empathetic.
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                • [QUOTE=Paleobird;1210343]My SO and I are both lean and fit and can do what needs doing in terms of lifting a canoe onto the top of a camper and such and we can and do both climb mountains./QUOTE]

                  So he's made it to being called your SO now PB? Congrats! 😄
                  If you're interested in my (very) occasional updates on how I'm working out and what I'm eating click here.

                  Originally posted by tfarny
                  If you are new to the PB - please ignore ALL of this stuff, until you've read the book, or at least http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/

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                  • Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                    ... someone who used to do a lot of it (competition body building back in the day) to someone who now hasn't set foot in a gym in ages and likes it that way just fine.

                    My SO and I are both lean and fit and can do what needs doing in terms of lifting a canoe onto the top of a camper and such and we can and do both climb mountains. Neither one of us lifts weights. Go figure.

                    May be your competition level lifting contributed to your current fitness?
                    Perhaps, countless other non-competition lifters or even non lifters can lift a cnoe onto the top of a camper without a sweat (or injury), if they deadlift once a week.

                    So, to all the guys (and gals) sitting there smugly ridiculing the guy who is doing some workouts on the treadmill instead of pumping some iron, get over yourselves. You don't know what that person's situation is. He may have a back injury or other physical disability that keeps him from "getting under the bar" (love all the testosterone pumped up phraseology).
                    If Brian Jones can get under the bar, the guy walking on the treadmill can sure do. Probably will get far more benefit.
                    Few but ripe.

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                    • [QUOTE=Misabi;1210353]
                      Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                      My SO and I are both lean and fit and can do what needs doing in terms of lifting a canoe onto the top of a camper and such and we can and do both climb mountains./QUOTE]

                      So he's made it to being called your SO now PB? Congrats! ��
                      Yup. Thanks. And we actually did lift a two person canoe onto the top of his camper today after installing the brackets for it. We're going to go on a hiking trip to Zion and Bryce Natl. parks in about a week.

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                      • Originally posted by 70in2012 View Post
                        May be your competition level lifting contributed to your current fitness? [No because in between I ballooned up to 210 lbs and had cancer]
                        Perhaps, countless other non-competition lifters or even non lifters can lift a cnoe onto the top of a camper without a sweat (or injury), if they deadlift once a week. [I haven't deadlifted since my early 20's (now 51)]

                        If Brian Jones can get under the bar, the guy walking on the treadmill can sure do. Probably will get far more benefit. [Yeah, yeah, I can relate to inspirational stories about people overcoming physical adversity (e.g.cancer and epilepsy). But it still doesn't have to be weight lifting. There is more than one way to the goal of physical fitness. Each person should be allowed to choose his/her own without being called names by a bunch of chest thumping cavemen.]
                        answers above in bold

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                        • I saw this and thought of you all...

                          Adonis Golden Ratio - The Body Your DNA Meant You To Have
                          "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                          In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                          - Ray Peat

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                          • Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                            answers above in bold
                            Indeed there is more than one way (some are more effective, some less)and each person in fact is free to choose the way they prefer.

                            P.S.
                            I think strength does not fade away entirely. So even if you ballooned in weight and have not deadlifted for thirty years, you would still reap the benefit of the work you did in your younger days.
                            Few but ripe.

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                            • Originally posted by Lockstock View Post
                              so who forced agriculture on Columbus's ancestors then huh?
                              Really? You know the answer to this. Where did "our" civilization begin? Pick up your high school history book. It's under "Chapter 1"
                              The Champagne of Beards

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                              • Originally posted by Mr. Anthony View Post
                                I'm by no means a big guy, but my shoulders and lats are much wider than my waist. Clothes have to be "athletic fit" to even be in the ballpark, and all my nice stuff gets tailored. I HATE how most shirts have the same amount of material around the middle as a 4-person tent.

                                Sent via A-10 Warthog
                                yeah this totally. and to top it off, I have long arms. so when I buy shirts that fit my chest and arms, the waist is way too large. fortunately for me, I prefer to roll my sleeves up all the time, so I can get away with off the rack shirts with normal length sleeves. but then the waist fits well, and the chest and shoulders are too tight. its a never-ending battle

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