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    How strong is strong enough?

    There are different body types and a wide spectrum of opinions out there...so what do you say is the minimum amount of strength that should be attained? I have a skinny runner type body so hi strength is way out there for me but there must be a "best bang for the buck" efficiency for training time vs strength.

  • #2
    That depends on who you are trying to impress.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by eKatherine View Post
      That depends on who you are trying to impress.
      Only the hairy vegan girls so far!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by rockrunner View Post
        Only the hairy vegan girls so far!
        Perhaps you are only trying to impress yourself, which means your motivation is intrinsic.

        I always see these threads where the guys are talking about everybody needing to blast themselves for 30 or 45 or even 60 minutes multiple times a week. I do low volume and I rest between sets. I get what I need out of it, without risking injury.

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        • #5
          Only you can really answer that question. Completely subjective with regards to your goals.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by eKatherine View Post
            Perhaps you are only trying to impress yourself, which means your motivation is intrinsic.
            That sounds right, I have to make myself weight train because its suppose to be good for you but I don't obviously see the benefits...they are kinda hidden. Endurance exercising I see the benefits easily so its hard to swap out one for other to me. I'm just trying to find the right amount of strength training to add in.

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            • #7
              You should add in some basic strength building stuff like squats and deadlifts and some explosive stuff like power cleans or whatever. You'll feel a lot more bouncy and fast and the actual effort of running will start to feel easier than it used to. You'll also need to do far less running to be a decent runner. You'll be able to accomplish in 30 minutes a few times a week what it takes you hours to accomplish running all the time.
              Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by rockrunner View Post
                That sounds right, I have to make myself weight train because its suppose to be good for you but I don't obviously see the benefits...they are kinda hidden. Endurance exercising I see the benefits easily so its hard to swap out one for other to me. I'm just trying to find the right amount of strength training to add in.
                I guess your an endurance athlete or something then? You could practice HIT 1-2x/week and be all set. Check out Body by Science.

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                • #9
                  Bodyweight excersises are the best way to acheive strength levels that are proportional to your build. EG the pull-up is a very effective strength excersise. 'Bar' training is getting really popular nowadays
                  Healthy is the new wealthy.

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                  • #10
                    Oh, I just read on your other thread the things you do. In all frankness I wouldn't worry about hitting the gym for extra strength work (unless you like it.... as I do) in the least if you are rock climbing, paddling, chopping wood... ect. day in and day out.

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                    • #11
                      you do realize strength training assists with overall body joint/muscle strength, your mind/muscle connection, to name a few not so obvious ones...and is just part of being a healthy male in general? (or female for that matter).

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by rockrunner View Post
                        How strong is strong enough?
                        Yeah, it's subjective, but I'd say you should be able to do 30-50 push ups and squats, 5-10 pullups, 2 minute plank...these bodyweight moves mean you have a modicum of functional strength, decent core strength, and can manage doing physical work (digging, lifting, etc.) . I've gotten a lot stronger doing bodyweight training and it feels great. I can keep up with the kids, among other things...

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by dabears View Post
                          you do realize strength training assists with overall body joint/muscle strength, your mind/muscle connection, to name a few not so obvious ones...and is just part of being a healthy male in general? (or female for that matter).
                          But hey if your rock climbing and rowing in some white water your getting plenty of that without a regimented "strength day" at the gym. Kinda like Movnat.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
                            You should add in some basic strength building stuff like squats and deadlifts and some explosive stuff like power cleans or whatever. You'll feel a lot more bouncy and fast and the actual effort of running will start to feel easier than it used to. You'll also need to do far less running to be a decent runner. You'll be able to accomplish in 30 minutes a few times a week what it takes you hours to accomplish running all the time.
                            I'm a decent runner no matter what I do...I'm just looking for things others here use as bench marks for minimum strength training...I know I need to improve in that area but how much time do I need to dedicate to weight training is the real question for me.

                            In running there is a sweet spot around 15 - 25 miles a week that you get the most health benefit for your time...where is that for strength training?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Neckhammer View Post
                              But hey if your rock climbing and rowing in some white water your getting plenty of that without a regimented "strength day" at the gym. Kinda like Movnat.
                              fully understood, and there are a lot more ways to get generally stronger than without a barbell... I've had the discussion on here before. But I still think it is generally speaking the best and most progressive way to add strength, and would only help complement those activities.

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