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  • How do you get a rough idea of your healthy weight?

    And don't quote BMI, I can't see it being physically possible for me to drop down to 144-188lbs. I come from a line of Algonquins and we're bluntly put. Built like brick shithouses. I'm currently 308 lbs at 6'1, My doctor has so far been useless at helping me, I've been diagnosed with Celiacs, don't currently have Diabetes, don't have cholesterol issues only thing I need is "Lose some weight" <-Direct quote. So what methods can I use to get a generalized idea of my healthy weight, what other informations do you require, should I post a picture?

    As always, thanks for any assistance you can offer me.

  • #2
    When I was 200 pounds, I searched around on the internet for Ideal Body Weight calculators. Based on a number of calculators, I chose an estimate that fell about in the mid-range, or 123 pounds. I expect I will finish up before I reach that number, as I have been getting a lot of exercise and building muscle. It's okay to re-evaluate your goal and modify it as you grow closer.

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    • #3
      Would you be able to give me a few directions on where to look, or what keywords to use? I'm also wondering if my bloodline changes the overall body mass as I alluded to.

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      • #4
        Can you pinch an inch? Sometimes the old school tests work just fine

        Hip to waste ratio of 1/1 is pretty good for a guy.

        Weight is a fairly useless data point unless your using it in conjunction with fat percent.
        Last edited by Neckhammer; 04-20-2013, 09:24 PM.

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        • #5
          Around the gut yes, it hangs over my waist a little when i stand up. Arms and legs have gotten muscle tone and lost all the fat. Just haven't gone down in scaled weight, I've gone up. It's like an uphill battle some days.

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          • #6
            How you look in your underwear (or less!)?

            Seriously, I have just a few pounds to go and my end weight will be a lot of women's starting weight. I feel fit, I look toned and I know if I tried to get down to the healthy weight range per medical standards, I would be gaunt and bony.

            If I was going to give you some concrete advice, it would be aim to lose 10% of your body weight first, and then reevaluate if and how much more you would like to lose based on how you look and feel then.

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            • #7
              ideal body weight calculator - Google Search

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              • #8
                It seems to me that most of the links are to BMI calculators, which I have been told are inaccurate. The Personal Trainer I work with has a hand held device that measures you fat index. It needs to be between 15 - 20 for a man.
                Terry
                "The problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other peoples money"

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by evotell View Post
                  It seems to me that most of the links are to BMI calculators, which I have been told are inaccurate. The Personal Trainer I work with has a hand held device that measures you fat index. It needs to be between 15 - 20 for a man.
                  Terry
                  If by "fat index" you mean body fat percentage, you can even get it down to less than 10%. 15% is a good number to shoot for, to start. You start with your weight, your height, and a couple of measurements (the military calculators use neck and abdomen) to calculate a rough estimate of how much of your body is comprised of fat. There are a number of different ways to measure bodyfat, but none of them are particularly accurate, except the relatively expensive lab test methods.

                  It's not a bad thing to track, but if you are using any kind of method to measure at home, you'll want to keep track as a point of reference, not as an absolute number. The measurements and calculations are all just estimates. You just track to see it go down over time.

                  Here's one calculator, but I don't think it's very accurate: http://www.bmi-calculator.net/body-fat-calculator/

                  It tells me I'm under 10, and looking at myself in reference to pictures I'd say I'm closer to 12, though other ones put me at 10-11.

                  Here are another couple. If you see one that's requesting measurements in mm, it probably requires use of calipers. I just use the tape/weight/height ones.
                  http://www.calculator.net/body-fat-calculator.html
                  http://www.linear-software.com/online.html

                  After trying all three of those, I think the second one is most accurate for me, but that's not a promise that it will be relevant for someone who has 4 inches and 140 pounds on me.
                  Last edited by jfreaksho; 04-21-2013, 09:11 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by evotell View Post
                    It seems to me that most of the links are to BMI calculators, which I have been told are inaccurate. The Personal Trainer I work with has a hand held device that measures you fat index. It needs to be between 15 - 20 for a man.
                    Terry
                    There is no possible way of determining an exact ideal body weight for a person who is over very overweight without estimating. It is pointless to put much faith in any method as set in stone. But if he wants a ballpark number, he can use these to get one.

                    It sounds to me like you're saying that no one should ever set a weight goal. Just kind of, like, whatever.
                    Last edited by eKatherine; 04-21-2013, 10:10 AM.

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                    • #11
                      I take a somewhat different approach. I know my height and I have an estimate of the body fat percentage I'd like to have and the approximate lean (nonfat) mass I'd like to have. Then I reverse engineer the resulting weight:

                      height - 155cm (61")
                      LBM - 43-45kg (95-99#)
                      fat % - 12-15% (==> 85-88% lean)

                      45/.88 = ~51kg (112.5#) <---- target weight

                      Though I don't really care much about weight. I care about health, and capability, and performance. Weight is something easy to measure, so we look at it like the drunk looking for his car keys under the streetlight.

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                      • #12
                        I'm leaning toward going for BF% myself, because even with a large range, most calculators are just guesses based on some formulation of 'average'.

                        I'm 6'3", athletic build, and my supposed healthy range is 148 (yeah right) - 200. I could reasonably see myself at ~195, but I'm not convinced that my best weight is under 200. I've got broad shoulders, long arms, full back/chest, all naturally. Weight is reasonable to monitor, but ultimately not the best indicator of health.
                        I got 99 problems but a pancake ain't one...

                        My Journal

                        Height: 6'3"
                        SW (Feb 2012): 278
                        SBF: 26% (Scale)
                        CW (Sept 2015): 200
                        CBF: 17% (Scale)

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                        • #13
                          I think estimating a natural ideal body weight is harder for men, because they naturally have a wider range in the amount of muscle they can develop and maintain without any extraordinary effort. My DH is 5'11" and also has very broad shoulders and long limbs. His "healthy weight" range is something like 135-175. Because it had been so long since he was under 200, he wasn't sure where his final stopping point would be. At 175 he looked quite slender with clothes on, but was unhappy with the amount of fat around his middle. Now at 165, and with a modest commitment to regular body weight exercise, his upper body is noticeably more muscular and his waist is 2" smaller. He looks downright skinny in clothes (by American standards anyway), but he is very happy with the definition starting to appear in his abs.

                          I'd guesstimate his body fat % to be in the high teens. He probably could easily put on 10lbs in muscle and still look slender. He has the skeleton to support that and more. However, he's almost certainly a hard gainer. The amount of work, in terms of weight lifting, to make sure that 10lbs was muscle and not fat is not something that interests him at the moment. So even though he could support a weight above his calculated "healthy weight", he's decided to settle for looking skinny right now. He looks damn good naked tho.
                          50yo, 5'3"
                          SW-195
                          CW-125, part calorie counting, part transition to primal
                          GW- Goals are no longer weight-related

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