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  • Is PBF the best choice if your really serious about getting stronger

    Like serious serious. Like how boxers need to train to earn money and... sort like that.

  • #2
    It can certainly help, especially if you are starting from zero. I would think the pushups alone would be great for a boxer. But in my opinion, it's hard to beat barbell training in terms of "bang for your buck", especially if your primary goal is to get stronger.

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    • #3
      Ask Bruce Lee
      Maybe not exactly PBF but not a hi tech gym rat.
      If you're looking for best, most efficient, training at an elite level, I'd think you would need a good trainer to make it specific for you.
      Last edited by Tom B-D; 04-03-2013, 06:04 AM.

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      • #4
        i agree that barbel training is great for raw strength, like power lifting or olympic lifting. but if you want to do something with that strength, i think you need something like PBF or another bodyweight program or movnat where you are actually moving your body through space. i guess that's the whole idea behind crossfit.
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        • #5
          Basically how it works is, you need to build a strength base. Once that has been developed, you transition into more sports specific training/conditioning. I think Starting Strength or Strong Lifts is a better program for strength development than PBF.

          I love the simplicity/measurability of barbell training and the benefits gained by doing 4-5 core movements (with few accessories).
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Vhs19 View Post
            Like serious serious. Like how boxers need to train to earn money and... sort like that.
            PBF is an awesome program for general fitness and overall health.

            I don't think it's the optimal program for getting strong. (and I don't think it's intended to be).

            If you care about getting strong, or wonder why you should get strong, read this:

            T NATION | Conditioning is a Sham
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Fernaldo View Post
              Basically how it works is, you need to build a strength base. Once that has been developed, you transition into more sports specific training/conditioning. I think Starting Strength or Strong Lifts is a better program for strength development than PBF.

              I love the simplicity/measurability of barbell training and the benefits gained by doing 4-5 core movements (with few accessories).
              Cross-posted. I agree with this.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by RichMahogany View Post
                PBF is an awesome program for general fitness and overall health.

                I don't think it's the optimal program for getting strong. (and I don't think it's intended to be).

                If you care about getting strong, or wonder why you should get strong, read this:

                T NATION | Conditioning is a Sham
                Yeah, read that.

                That said, if you have no base of strength already, Starting Strength or Stronglifts or other similar basic barbell training might not be enough. For example, there is not a lot of variation in the movements doing the basic lifts. You never twist your core, for example. Only two of the lifts work your glutes and in my experience, if your glutes are weak you can somehow do them and not strengthen your glutes much at all. None of them will help you if your hamstrings are too tight and none of them will get you a pullup if you can't do one now.
                Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                • #9
                  PBF is not a strength program, so no.
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                  • #10
                    Thanks for the answers guys, Im really appreciated. But Im wondering is the body weight workout as good as weight lifting in this case?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Vhs19 View Post
                      Thanks for the answers guys, Im really appreciated. But Im wondering is the body weight workout as good as weight lifting in this case?
                      How do you feel we've come up short in answering that question?
                      The Champagne of Beards

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                      • #12
                        No. Barbells are the best tool to get as strong as possible

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by primalrob View Post
                          i agree that barbel training is great for raw strength, like power lifting or olympic lifting. but if you want to do something with that strength, i think you need something like PBF or another bodyweight program or movnat where you are actually moving your body through space. i guess that's the whole idea behind crossfit.
                          Uhm, what? Would you mind explaining how "raw strength" from barbells is not usable?

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                          • #14
                            ...and what exactly you want to do with that strength that Movnat/CrossFit will allow?
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by quikky View Post
                              Uhm, what? Would you mind explaining how "raw strength" from barbells is not usable?
                              i think perhaps you missed what i was saying, or i didn't articulate it properly. my point is that raw strength is great, but being able to use that strength to move your own body through space is better. so, do deadlifts...but do pull ups and pushups or carry some rocks and logs too. strength should be about more than what you can do in the gym...just my opinion though.
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