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  • #31
    Squats can be a great builder of the quadriceps for people that have the right built, for others it may be better for building the waist or butt! Personally I have got very good abs and lower back from squats, but my quadriceps are built by leg-press and hack-lift…
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    • #32
      I'm actually starting to like having big thighs. Squats make them burn. Deadlifts work my glutes.

      The problem is that if you start having some muscle on your thighs, you will be basically wearing A line skirts OR ill fitting pants. Like I see those awesome crossfit women with big quads and I'm like hell yeah, you go hottie, but I know they are probably in tears trying to find pants that fit.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by TheFastCat View Post
        If I read another thread from women afraid of "bulking up" from lifting I'm going nuts!

        Here's Camille she squats 300 lbs - is she bulky? By some standards maybe. She most likely squats more than 2x what any lady on this forum does and is a professional athlete which means you will never attain her bulkiness.
        For one thing, I understand the difference between what lifting weights can accomplish and what people incorrectly think of as "toning"-I was only using that as a verb because you have to admit, what other verb can you use to describe it? "Toning" is such a taboo word now, I should have known I would get crucified for using it.
        Secondly, "By some standards maybe." -yes, I have my own set of standards, and yes, you have your own set of standards, so don't try to force yours on me. It isn't comfortable for me to barely squeeze into any of my shorts and to have my thighs always rubbing together. Far from wanting to look like an waif, I just would like to have my legs be a little more manageable. Is that such a crime? I was simply looking for some advice on the science behind what happens when women squat heavy and I don't really need people trying to force their own standards of aesthetics on me because that's not what I'm looking for.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by magnolia1973 View Post
          I know they are probably in tears trying to find pants that fit.
          Oh I just thought that's what always happened while pants shopping as a woman...
          Breathe. Move forward.

          I just eat what I want...

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          • #35
            Charles Poliquin lays it out nicely... performing sets of 6 or fewer reps will target more neural development and not much cellular development. This means that you will increase in strength without increasing in size primarily through increased coordination and neural drive. Stimulus to increase muscle size is best around 8-12 reps/set.

            Naturally, 6 or fewer reps means the weight is quite a bit heavier than if you're doing 10, 12+ reps. Form becomes more and more critical so you might want to have someone give you some feedback if you are having some doubt. Paul Chek recommends not going this heavy with weight until at least a year's worth of weight training, but it sounds like you have that already.

            Another thought is to do a bunch of cardio at the end of the workout. That will switch your hormone balance to be less supportive of muscle growth.

            Anyway, avoid the 8-12 rep range. If your form and health are supportive, try using sets of 6 reps or less (with heavier weight).

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            • #36
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              • #37
                Whoah, we got 4 pages and counting of "Hey, I'm lifting heavy weights; is it possible that's making my muscles a little bigger?"

                J/K

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by magnolia1973 View Post
                  I'm actually starting to like having big thighs. Squats make them burn. Deadlifts work my glutes.

                  The problem is that if you start having some muscle on your thighs, you will be basically wearing A line skirts OR ill fitting pants. Like I see those awesome crossfit women with big quads and I'm like hell yeah, you go hottie, but I know they are probably in tears trying to find pants that fit.
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                  Reps of 5 can cause hypertrophy. Hypertrophy is the Latin word for bulking. I've experienced it and I actually really love it. I love to show off my muscles to my boyfriend. He can't give me the "do you even lift" nonsense because yes, I do lift and he does not. I deadlifted HIS bodyweight the other day.
                  Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
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                    Hypertrophy is the Latin word for bulking.
                    Well Greek, and cell enlargement, but close enough. Nice call on the jeans....I may order some.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by RyanIPT View Post
                      Charles Poliquin lays it out nicely... performing sets of 6 or fewer reps will target more neural development and not much cellular development. This means that you will increase in strength without increasing in size primarily through increased coordination and neural drive. Stimulus to increase muscle size is best around 8-12 reps/set.

                      Naturally, 6 or fewer reps means the weight is quite a bit heavier than if you're doing 10, 12+ reps. Form becomes more and more critical so you might want to have someone give you some feedback if you are having some doubt. Paul Chek recommends not going this heavy with weight until at least a year's worth of weight training, but it sounds like you have that already.

                      Another thought is to do a bunch of cardio at the end of the workout. That will switch your hormone balance to be less supportive of muscle growth.

                      Anyway, avoid the 8-12 rep range. If your form and health are supportive, try using sets of 6 reps or less (with heavier weight).
                      Thank you. This is what I was looking for. Not people telling me I'm wrong for wanting to look the way I want.
                      By cardio, do you mean slow and steady state(i.e., walking at 3-4ish mph at a gentle incline?) or more intense cardio?

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                      • #41
                        You want a steady-state 30 to 60 min to promote blood flow to the stubborn fat areas and do the fat burn prompt.

                        However, my muscles increased in size significantly with strength workouts (5x5, 3x5 etc). While not hypertrophy-specific, strength training increases size, and if the muscle has potential to grow it will grow. The workouts that did not increase the muscle mass (in fact started to decrease it after a while) were the boot-campy staff with cardio and light weights (with 3-5 sets of 15-20 reps). And, yes, it was coupled with 'on BMR" diet and 70% carbs, <15% fat.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by purple579 View Post
                          Thank you. This is what I was looking for. Not people telling me I'm wrong for wanting to look the way I want.
                          By cardio, do you mean slow and steady state(i.e., walking at 3-4ish mph at a gentle incline?) or more intense cardio?
                          you are missing the point entirely -_-

                          the "muscles" you are gaining aren't making your thighs "unmanageable" - it's the fat on your thighs.
                          Do what you want - but imho (of course) not squatting isn't the answer to manageable thighs - it's shedding the excess fat on them. Do what you want.

                          I showed Camille not because she is the ideal female form that every woman should try to be like - but because she is strong as you - waay stronger than you and not bulky.
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                          • #43
                            Nice body transformation Leida!

                            Originally posted by Leida View Post
                            And, yes, it was coupled with 'on BMR" diet and 70% carbs, <15% fat.
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by purple579 View Post
                              Thank you. This is what I was looking for. Not people telling me I'm wrong for wanting to look the way I want.
                              By cardio, do you mean slow and steady state(i.e., walking at 3-4ish mph at a gentle incline?) or more intense cardio?
                              You are very welcome.

                              The cardio should get your heart going so I would guess faster than 3-4 mph. You might try 20-30 minutes post-leg workout, however, performing 6 reps or fewer/set is definitely the more important of the two suggestions.

                              Cardio will increase cortisol which inhibits muscle growth. Weight training does the same, but it also increases muscle building hormones for the first 45 minutes or so. Tacking on a cardio workout at the end will increase your post-workout cortisol without increasing the muscle building hormones--makes for a hormonal climate that is less supportive of muscle growth.

                              I should add that increasing cortisol is not a good thing if you are not getting enough sleep or under a lot of stress. A workout like that could help contribute to adrenal fatigue if that's the case.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by TheFastCat View Post
                                you are missing the point entirely -_-

                                the "muscles" you are gaining aren't making your thighs "unmanageable" - it's the fat on your thighs.
                                Do what you want - but imho (of course) not squatting isn't the answer to manageable thighs - it's shedding the excess fat on them. Do what you want.

                                I showed Camille not because she is the ideal female form that every woman should try to be like - but because she is strong as you - waay stronger than you and not bulky.
                                Actually, I'm pretty sure that squatting gave me more leg muscle, and given the fact that I have very short legs, yes, I would say that my "muscles" as you so referred to them has made them larger. Sure, I have fat on my thighs, as I'm sure you do too, but from what people are telling me it seems that squatting as much as I have been-referring to volume as well as weight-which is a fair amount, hasn't really been helping me.
                                Furthermore, that's exactly what I'm talking about-you may think she's not bulky, and that is YOUR opinion, and yes, I'm 100% positive she's stronger than me. But everyone's body is different and everyone's body responds to workouts differently. We can't all get lean and jacked from Crossfit-style workouts, much as we all want to. It doesn't seem to be working for me. So telling me that I'm not going to bulk up from doing heavy squats because women "can't" is, I'm sorry, not always the case. Yes, we're not going to look like female bodybuilders on roids, but there is a certain amount of bulking that can happen. You don't know how my body is going to respond, or anyone's for that matter.

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