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  • #16
    Hi

    Karate every time. I did karate for years and it teaches discipline, self-respect, and confidence. Kids who do karate are less likely to be bullied - and I don't mean because "they're tough!" but because they walk and act more confidently and don't look like someone's victim.

    Karate doesn't teach violence, it teaches self-defence - and, although it might sound corny, anyone getting a karate licence has to pledge never to use their skills to harm another individual unless in self-defence.

    Karate will keep kids (and adults) fit and active and healthy, as well as teach them good life skills.

    The gym is ok, boring though. It just teaches kids how to exercise and become vain! Children shouldn't be in a gym anyway, they should be out and about running around and playing and stuff, and going to football or karate or swimming a couple of times a week. No gyms, no computers all evening etc.

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    • #17
      I just wanted to add - I trained under Sensei Enoida years ago (8th dan Jap fella) and also a 5th dan and 3rd dan sensei years later. And I just wanted to correct some of the points made above.

      All karate by responsible sensei is taught initially as non-contact. You learn to kick or punch to within a couple of millimeters of your opponent.

      When you have reached a certain level of competence, you go on to full contact but without full impact. This takes practice and discipline.

      Your child will not be harmed. He or she will learn lifelong skills which will never be forgotten, eg how to crush a windpipe or break a leg and so on. Sounds gruesome but if someone was unable to get away from danger, then at least there is a last resort. But most of the people I met in karate were not there to kill anybody, it was a fun sport and has a good sense of team spirit as well as being a useful skill and way to keep fit.

      Don't be put off by horror stories - just make sure you go to a proper place. There are different styles of karate. I did mainly shotokan which is fairly mainstream and the group consisted of old and young. Another I did was (forgive the spelling) kyokoshinkai - that is vicious and I would not recommend it as much, but still ok if you get a good sensei.

      best of luck whatever you decide.

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      • #18
        Krav maga. What better than a modern battlefield tested combat art?

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        • #19
          My family and I do TKD (well, I will be returning to TKD once I recover from ACL replacement surgery), and we love it. Builds confidence; lots of fun; good exercise. And full contact sparring (Olympic style, not point), so we kick the heck out of one another and come back for more.

          But this is not the same as self defense. My dojang offers combat hapkido for self defense. Once my kids are older (must be 13 to take the hapkido classes), I'm going to start and invite the kids to do it too.

          As someone already said, a situational awareness class would help a ton in terms of self defense. The best thing is not to be in a bad situation in the first place.
          F, 44 years old, 111.8 lbs, 4 feet 11.5 inches (yes, that half inch matters!)

          **1st place sparring, AAU TKD regional qualifier, 2/15/15 - It's damn good to hit like a girl!**

          **First-ever 5K race 11/28/13: 37 minutes, 18+ seconds, no stopping**

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          • #20
            My goofy 12 year old has been doing martial arts since he was 8. I in no way think he can defend himself. However, the school has given him a place to work out his extra energy and a place of belonging. He has been bullied, but he handled the situation so well, the principal called to tell me how impressed he was with Jared's patience and courage in what had become a dangerous situation. (Taped on school bus). I figure, that alone is worth the time and money.
            Primal since 4/7/2012

            Starting weight 140
            Current weigh 126

            www.jenniferglobensky.blogspot.com

            Jennifer

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Eve2206 View Post
              I just wanted to add - I trained under Sensei Enoida years ago (8th dan Jap fella) and also a 5th dan and 3rd dan sensei years later. And I just wanted to correct some of the points made above.

              All karate by responsible sensei is taught initially as non-contact. You learn to kick or punch to within a couple of millimeters of your opponent.

              When you have reached a certain level of competence, you go on to full contact but without full impact. This takes practice and discipline.

              Your child will not be harmed. He or she will learn lifelong skills which will never be forgotten, eg how to crush a windpipe or break a leg and so on. Sounds gruesome but if someone was unable to get away from danger, then at least there is a last resort.
              Claims of deadly techniques like windpipe crush and leg break that are never trained against resisting opponents should be regarded with the same level of skepticism as unicorns and tooth fairies.

              If you want to learn to break someone's leg, you should take up Sambo, Catch Wrestling, or BJJ.
              The Champagne of Beards

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              • #22
                Any of the full contact sparring martial arts are good. Judo, wrestling, BJJ, boxing, Muay Thai, etc.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Gorbag View Post
                  It's not only about find some "sensei" to teach you "authentic martial arts", what really matters is doing full contact sparring for years against good training partners...
                  Oh and this.

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                  • #24
                    Disarmed combat martial arts are fine, but make sure you also teach them safe gun handling (The 4 Rules) and marksmanship as soon as they are responsible enough. Kids face a size disadvantage compared to adults and expecting them to defend themselves without tools is not realistic.

                    The discipline involved in shooting can have positive fitness effects as well.
                    Last edited by Him; 03-14-2013, 06:52 AM.

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                    • #25
                      Parkour. 'Nuff said.

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                      • #26
                        Hello All,

                        Thank you so much for sharing your thought.

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                        • #27
                          The first 3 techniques of self defence are "Scream loud, run fast, hide well". And I'm only half joking. I am not a screamer by nature, I had to learn it. Its fun, its relaxing - go out, relax and scream as loud and as long as possible, don't care who hears and what they may think (whatever that psychological phenomena is called, but nobody ever called police). Its useful if you have to call kids for lunch and they are kilometres away playing in the dunes. Now in dangerous situations I am the one who starts (kind of give the signal for screaming) and then join in the natural talents of the family - my mom or my daughter. Their sound is so near to ultrasound that attacking dogs change their mind and run away. Helps with atacking humans as well, somehow they don't like any kind of resistance, however slight.
                          Since I was 14 I have practised several different martial arts, depending on availability: karate, kug-fu, taekwondo, aikido. Kung-fu I liked the best, also the body forms I got from that. At first karate was illegal in the USSR, we had to hide the fact, not talk about it and there were no kimonos or belts. Sensei was a surgeon by profession and an ex-marine (soviet army). When I see what goes as karate now, I think probably it wasn't quite karate that was taught in our group. But it has proven effective even years after - the movements are so deep in subconscious mind that my body acts before analysing mind starts to interfere. On the positive side I have come out as a winner of bad situations but as the negative - afterwards I realise that I am too old for that, my joints hurt for very long time. Just don't tell it to anybody except my doctor. I'm a woman and I can drive most men up the tree as long as they don't have firearms. Also don't tell it around, nice men like to be the protective ones and I like nice men. Luxembourg here is pretty safe and I don't walk in the (small) bad areas, but back in my country you can never know, there is no clear division between good and bad area. And you don't have to break legs, a handful of sand or ground pepper in the eyes gives you plenty of time to get away safe.
                          For succesful self defense its not just a few movements and strength. Its millions of automated movements and the strength will come along, you can't learn all that without becoming stronger. My children did learn some taekwondo, now they say it was useful. Although I'm the only one in the family who is really into it, they also like and practice other sports - archery, horseriding, swimming.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by WeldingHank View Post
                            Krav maga. What better than a modern battlefield tested combat art?
                            Can you please give some good links about it?

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                            • #29
                              SeaHorse - my kung fu used to be strong but as I get older I am relying more on my Google Fu! Here is a link I found to krav maga in Lux. Sorry, I dont speak French but there seemed to be a few things on Google. Hope it helps.

                              http://www.kickyoufit.com/

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Calidris View Post
                                SeaHorse - my kung fu used to be strong but as I get older I am relying more on my Google Fu! Here is a link I found to krav maga in Lux. Sorry, I dont speak French but there seemed to be a few things on Google. Hope it helps.

                                http://www.kickyoufit.com/
                                Thank you! Google Fu is always a relaible ally! I thought maybe you have some sites that you particularly like. There is a new krav maga place opened in our local petrol station - the very last location you may dream to house a sports hall in! On the 1st floor they have lots of space. I think I may check it out some time after I get my creaky hip in place again. Hopefully. Had to stop aikido because it takes an hour to get up if I get on my knees.
                                I don't speak French either. Nor German or Luxembourgish (well, that a little bit).... I know I'm pretty dumb in this aspect. But I can read them with Google!

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