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    Hello, I'm looking to buy a new pair of minimalist-shoes and this time I want a pair I will use mostly for asphalt-running. I've noticed that my Vibram KSO got affected quite alot when I used them alot on asphalt, so this time I want to get a pair of shoes thats very tough and also toe-less so I could use regular socks in them.

    I will save my FiveFinger's lifespan by only using them for 'luxury-runs' in the nature instead.


    Does anyone have any thoughts about Merrel, VivoBarefoot etc? Name some good shoes and I'll see if I could get them from the nearby store.

  • #2
    I'd look for some zero drop shoes with a little cushion if you are running on pavement.

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    • #3
      I blew out the New Balance MT00 very quickly, much faster than VFFs.
      "Go For Broke"
      Fat Kine-230/24% @ 6'2"
      Small Kine-168/9%
      Now- 200/8%
      Goal- 210/6%

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      • #4
        i haven't tried the merrell street gloves, but they look like they would be good for asphalt running. new balance has a minimalist pair with decent soles too. i've been wearing out the soles on trail runners on sidewalks and streets too, but i've been seeing more options at my local running store. it looks like even Brooks is getting in on the game...still lots of tech to the shoes, but they're simpler and with little to no heel drop.
        http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread60178.html

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        • #5
          I like the Merrels but not nearly as minimalist as VFF.
          Have you done any actual Barefoot Running?
          Running as if you were Barefoot you shouldn't wear your shoes out. At least not quickly

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          • #6
            there are other styles of vibrams that have slightly different soles
            But I did a lot of running on the road in my KSOs for over a year and no wear yet.

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            • #7
              KSOs seems to last forever. I just ordered some Inov8 bare shoes we'll see how they hold up.

              Shoes don't seem to like rucking =).
              "Go For Broke"
              Fat Kine-230/24% @ 6'2"
              Small Kine-168/9%
              Now- 200/8%
              Goal- 210/6%

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              • #8
                Ditch the shoes and just run barefoot!

                If you absolutely MUST wear shoes, check out the Merrells. I have a pair and like them as far as shoes go. I can't really tell you how well they hold up to lots of asphalt running because I do all my running (asphalt and trail) truly barefoot and only wear the Merrells when I have to be someplace that requires shoes. They do seem to have a more durable sole than my VFFs and way more durable than my Feelmax (which are my favorite barefoot shoes because they have the thinnest/lightest sole).

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                • #9
                  Since this is about shoes, does anyone know how the sizes on the vibram run, I have small feet and I usually wear a 5 to a 6 depending on the shoe and I want to order a pair but there is no store near me to try them on and I'm worried a 6 may be to big, should i get a pair in chikldrens sizes?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by slowcooker View Post
                    I'd look for some zero drop shoes with a little cushion if you are running on pavement.
                    This.

                    I have worked in a running store the past two years and I cannot tell you how many people have came in with debilitating lower extremity injuries due to running on asphalt with barefoot shoes. My quick response: it's totally unnatural. The premise of barefoot running is great. Our ancestors did it. That's all good and well. But unfortunately, many fail to make the connection that asphalt wasn't around when our ancestors were indeed using their own foot padding to run around on the prairie or savannah. The bottom line is that your body is not structured to handle the impact of barefoot running on synthetic/unnatural surfaces. That being said, if you want to go for a zero-drop shoe with some cushioning to it, the saucony virrata is a great new option, as well as the new NB minimus road shoe.

                    Myself, I don't run on asphalt at all. After two years of ticking off 70-80 miles a week on asphalt, I had enough. Despite wearing traditional trainers, I was still aching all over. I now opt for wearing barefoot shoes strictly on trails when I do run. I recommend the merrel trail glove, but there are certainly many great ones out there.

                    Of course, I have seen very rare cases where someone has superhuman bone strength runs on asphalt with barefoot shoes with no problems. Good for them - though I will admit, they appear to be in pain while running and are constantly adjusting their gait. Anyhow, I don't mean to shoot down your aspirations, but my experience has shown that 99% of the time, wearing barefoot shoes on the asphalt leads to problems.

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                    • #11
                      Run on different asphalt... I know that sounds a bit silly, I don't know anything about asphalt. I'm only suggesting it because I can run barefoot on the roads in my neighborhood just fine, but when I try running around my in-laws' neighborhood my feet get chewed up pretty quickly. So maybe it is just the type of asphalt chewing up your shoes and not necessarily a problem with the shoes or the way you run. My KSO's have not been chewed up from when I do run in them, but I bet if I used them on my in-laws' road they would wear out much faster.

                      Also I don't like running in my Vivobarefoot shoes and wouldn't recommend them for running. But they are nice to go places in without drawing attention to my feet

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Future_PB_Dr View Post
                        I have worked in a running store the past two years and I cannot tell you how many people have came in with debilitating lower extremity injuries due to running on asphalt with barefoot shoes.
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                        but my experience has shown that 99% of the time, wearing barefoot shoes on the asphalt leads to problems.
                        Keep in mind that only the barefoot runners with injuries are coming into your store looking for shoes. Those without problems are not included in your sample/experience since they're not in your store buying shoes. Also, you can not be sure their injuries were completely due to their choice of footwear and not due to some aspect of their training (too much too soon) or a combination thereof.

                        I'm sure you also see plenty of runners who regularly wear shoes coming to the shop with debilitating lower extremity injuries. It's the nature of running, especially competitive running. The percentage of injured shoe wearers will seem smaller to you because the sample size is different. Runners who wear shoes, whether injured or not, will all visit your shop.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by PeaceKaren View Post
                          Keep in mind that only the barefoot runners with injuries are coming into your store looking for shoes. Those without problems are not included in your sample/experience since they're not in your store buying shoes. Also, you can not be sure their injuries were completely due to their choice of footwear and not due to some aspect of their training (too much too soon) or a combination thereof.

                          I'm sure you also see plenty of runners who regularly wear shoes coming to the shop with debilitating lower extremity injuries. It's the nature of running, especially competitive running. The percentage of injured shoe wearers will seem smaller to you because the sample size is different. Runners who wear shoes, whether injured or not, will all visit your shop.
                          You make a very good point, Karen. This is something I did not think of. I suppose I was bringing my own bias into it too much. Personally, running on trails in barefoot shoes is infinitely more comfortable than running on asphalt in the same shoes. Additionally, the scenery is much more rewarding . Regardless, I did not consider that most of the barefoot runners coming into my store with injuries are coming in for that very reason alone, thus skewing the sample from which I am making assumptions.

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                          • #14
                            I'll add this about running on asphalt. When I first made the transition to minimalist running, I started with five fingers. I went from insane amounts of cushioning in a New Balance motion control shoe, to five fingers and no cushion. I'm very flat footed by the way. For about 3 months, I had to keep my runs short, no more than 2-3 miles and less frequent, usually 3-4 days inbetween runs. I kept getting a pain in one of my metatarsals, on the top of my left foot. I never pushed it to the point an injury occured. After a few months, never had an issue again, and I've been running barefoot or with minimal shoes ever since. Maybe it was the beginning of a stress fracture or something, and I wouldn't be surprised since I had been running with such cushioned shoes for my whole life and heel striking at that. This was the first time without cushion AND landing on the ball of my foot. As for the original question......I would try the Saucony Hattori for running on asphalt. They have a newer version with laces. My wife seems to like them. I do most of my running in merrell barefoots. The tread gets worn down over a years time, but holds up pretty well overall.

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                            • #15
                              Wearing more cushions on your feet just transfers the stress farther up your legs.

                              People that are already running lots of mileage think they can just go buy some 'Barefoot shoes' and continue to run the way they always have (bad idea!!).

                              I only tried Barefoot (actual barefoot) and minimalist shoe running because in the past, I always had Knee and Hip pain from running.

                              I learned how to adjust my Gait and have ZERO knee and hip pain when I run. It was truly amazing.
                              Still haven't beaten my Plantar Fasciitis but it has improved.

                              My PF feels much better when I run Barefoot.
                              It's the best foot massage you can get.
                              But it SUCKS when there are lots of dried Berries all over the sidewalks!

                              My neighborhood has some stretches of VERY agressive old asphalt. I just avoid them when Barefoot. Some of them even hurt in Vibrams.

                              I keep my runs under 10k but when it warms up I'm going to do a Half Marathon program...we'll see

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