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    My TKD black-belt plan (was going to test in fall 2013) has been derailed by a torn ACL. Anyone here have ACL reconstructive surgery? If so, did you go the hamstring, patella or cadaver route? My surgeon strongly suggested hamstring (I do competitive tae kwon do, and I'm 42 years old, heavier than my goal weight but not truly overweight). I'll be asking him more about hamstring versus patella, and I'll also get a second opinion from a surgeon not in that practice, but I was wondering what people's experiences have been. Have you come back close to 100% post-surgery (and physical therapy)? Thanks in advance.
    F, 44 years old, 111.8 lbs, 4 feet 11.5 inches (yes, that half inch matters!)

    **1st place sparring, AAU TKD regional qualifier, 2/15/15 - It's damn good to hit like a girl!**

    **First-ever 5K race 11/28/13: 37 minutes, 18+ seconds, no stopping**

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    Well, for anyone who's interested, I did a lot more research, spoke to a number of people who have gone through ACL reconstruction, and double checked with my surgeon. Hamstring option is best for me; using the patella tendon leads to chronic knee pain. And as long as I do PT, there's an excellent chance I'll have 100% use of the knee -- which means back to competitive sparring. I'm a happy camper -- or I will be, once my surgery is done in early January. I'm looking forward to being active again; this sitting-on-my-duff thing got old within 48 hours, and I am so over being exhausted just running (hah - see what I did there?) errands. Bring on the surgery and the 8+ months of PT!
    F, 44 years old, 111.8 lbs, 4 feet 11.5 inches (yes, that half inch matters!)

    **1st place sparring, AAU TKD regional qualifier, 2/15/15 - It's damn good to hit like a girl!**

    **First-ever 5K race 11/28/13: 37 minutes, 18+ seconds, no stopping**

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    • #3
      Good luck with the surgery and PT. It will all be worth it a year from now when you have your knee back.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Velocity J View Post
        Good luck with the surgery and PT. It will all be worth it a year from now when you have your knee back.
        Thanks!
        F, 44 years old, 111.8 lbs, 4 feet 11.5 inches (yes, that half inch matters!)

        **1st place sparring, AAU TKD regional qualifier, 2/15/15 - It's damn good to hit like a girl!**

        **First-ever 5K race 11/28/13: 37 minutes, 18+ seconds, no stopping**

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        • #5
          I had surgery (ACL, meniscus, MCL/LCL) just over two years ago now and am definitely back to 95% or so. I still have lingering problems with my menisci that I also tore though so nothing with the ACL. I went the patella tendon route as it was what my surgeon said he was most comfortable with, and I think that's one of the biggest issues.

          I also think that hamstring tendon is preferred for women while patella tendon is preferred for guys but I'm not confident on that, not sure where I heard it.

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          • #6
            Good luck with your surgery. Don't forget that mental practice(imagery) works almost as well as real practice - so keep up your skills in TKD with a couple of 20 minute 'mental ' pratice sessions a day. You will be amazed at how little skill you lose when you get back- it may take a while for the physical to cath back up though so give it lots of time.
            Cheers
            J

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            • #7
              Jackie, i had ACL?Meniscus reconstruction 14 years ago(cadaver), and just found out in the last few months, that I have no ACL. DOH!!! I am going in next month to have mine done again, this time with hamstring. This was my Doc's advice. Good luck to you, and be diligent with your rehab. Drink lots of bone broth too:-) Cheers, SG.
              Free your mind, and your Grok will follow!

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              • #8
                Good luck with the rehab Jackie.

                If it's any help I reviewed a recent article in the journal of orthopaedic and sports physical therapy about ACL rehab. Hope it helps. The Dreaded ACL Tear: Rehab Protocols from JOSPT and Solutions for Coaches and Trainers | FITNESS PAIN FREE

                Dan Fitness Pain Free

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                • #9
                  Good luck with the rehab Jackie.

                  If it's any help I reviewed a recent article in the journal of orthopaedic and sports physical therapy about ACL rehab. Hope it helps. The Dreaded ACL Tear: Rehab Protocols from JOSPT and Solutions for Coaches and Trainers | FITNESS PAIN FREE

                  Dan Fitness Pain Free

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by jtrain_36 View Post
                    I had surgery (ACL, meniscus, MCL/LCL) just over two years ago now and am definitely back to 95% or so. I still have lingering problems with my menisci that I also tore though so nothing with the ACL. I went the patella tendon route as it was what my surgeon said he was most comfortable with, and I think that's one of the biggest issues.

                    I also think that hamstring tendon is preferred for women while patella tendon is preferred for guys but I'm not confident on that, not sure where I heard it.
                    Thanks for sharing, jtrain_36 - two people in my dojang, both women, had ACL reconstruction - one was hamstring and one was patella. I'm glad your knee is up to 95%. Sorry to hear about the ongoing menisci issues; I hope they can be rectified without too much hassle.
                    F, 44 years old, 111.8 lbs, 4 feet 11.5 inches (yes, that half inch matters!)

                    **1st place sparring, AAU TKD regional qualifier, 2/15/15 - It's damn good to hit like a girl!**

                    **First-ever 5K race 11/28/13: 37 minutes, 18+ seconds, no stopping**

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by twa2w View Post
                      Good luck with your surgery. Don't forget that mental practice(imagery) works almost as well as real practice - so keep up your skills in TKD with a couple of 20 minute 'mental ' pratice sessions a day. You will be amazed at how little skill you lose when you get back- it may take a while for the physical to cath back up though so give it lots of time.
                      Cheers
                      J
                      Thank you - this is incredibly helpful! I've been going to TKD class to watch my kids and husband and friends continue their lessons, and I'm going to be helping my family review their forms. The mental imagery idea is a wonderful suggestion - thank you for sharing it!
                      F, 44 years old, 111.8 lbs, 4 feet 11.5 inches (yes, that half inch matters!)

                      **1st place sparring, AAU TKD regional qualifier, 2/15/15 - It's damn good to hit like a girl!**

                      **First-ever 5K race 11/28/13: 37 minutes, 18+ seconds, no stopping**

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by SoccerGrok View Post
                        Jackie, i had ACL?Meniscus reconstruction 14 years ago(cadaver), and just found out in the last few months, that I have no ACL. DOH!!! I am going in next month to have mine done again, this time with hamstring. This was my Doc's advice. Good luck to you, and be diligent with your rehab. Drink lots of bone broth too:-) Cheers, SG.
                        No ACL!!! Yikes! I read that the cadaver ACL could deteriorate. Good luck with your surgery! I'm meeting my PT two days before the surgery; looking forward to it. And today I made two massive batches of beef bone broth and chicken soup.
                        F, 44 years old, 111.8 lbs, 4 feet 11.5 inches (yes, that half inch matters!)

                        **1st place sparring, AAU TKD regional qualifier, 2/15/15 - It's damn good to hit like a girl!**

                        **First-ever 5K race 11/28/13: 37 minutes, 18+ seconds, no stopping**

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Dan Pope View Post
                          Good luck with the rehab Jackie.

                          If it's any help I reviewed a recent article in the journal of orthopaedic and sports physical therapy about ACL rehab. Hope it helps. The Dreaded ACL Tear: Rehab Protocols from JOSPT and Solutions for Coaches and Trainers | FITNESS PAIN FREE

                          Dan Fitness Pain Free
                          Thanks, Dan! I liked your review of the article. I'm not sure what the difference is between closed-chain and open-chain, but when I meet my PT in two days, I'll stress that I am looking forward to getting back to TKD, both for competitive sparring and for progressing to my black belt. I'm positive that we'll work together well and make that happen.
                          F, 44 years old, 111.8 lbs, 4 feet 11.5 inches (yes, that half inch matters!)

                          **1st place sparring, AAU TKD regional qualifier, 2/15/15 - It's damn good to hit like a girl!**

                          **First-ever 5K race 11/28/13: 37 minutes, 18+ seconds, no stopping**

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                          • #14
                            I had the patella graft done almost 20 years ago now. Just had a meniscus tear repaired a year ago but otherwise haven't had any real issues. I ran the Boston Marathon in 2000 and my knee didn't hurt any more than any other part of my body did afterwards

                            The rehab is the key. You sound like you are pretty committed to your martial art. Stick to the rehab protocol and don't rush things too much and you should be back to full strength by the end of the year at the latest.

                            Then you'll need more time to get over the mental aspect of the injury like not favoring the knee, but that's just part of the process.
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                            Primal since August 2012. CW: 317.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by jtrain_36 View Post
                              I had surgery (ACL, meniscus, MCL/LCL) just over two years ago now and am definitely back to 95% or so. I still have lingering problems with my menisci that I also tore though so nothing with the ACL. I went the patella tendon route as it was what my surgeon said he was most comfortable with, and I think that's one of the biggest issues.

                              I also think that hamstring tendon is preferred for women while patella tendon is preferred for guys but I'm not confident on that, not sure where I heard it.
                              I am a guy - had the patellar tendon version done over a decade ago.

                              I worked my a** off in rehab and within six months, I was doing everything I had been doing before. At that point in time, I was mostly running ultramarathons and skiing. I ran a trail 50 miler just before the six month point after the surgery and I was skiing without a brace two weeks later.

                              I've skied well over 500 days since the surgery, I ran more than 20,000 miles after the surgery before essentially retiring from serious running in the past couple years. These days, I mostly do CrossFit, lift heavy on my own, sprint, ski, ride my bike on occasion, and do some hiking. I never even think about the knee.


                              DML

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