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  • #76
    Of the top of my head something like under 6% body fat is unhealthy. But 10% is perfectly reasonable.
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    • #77
      Originally posted by rimam1 View Post
      I know getting ripped is an obsession for lots of guys. I can totally understand where it comes from, as I myself am working to get more muscular, but the concept of "getting ripped" sounds like body engineering to fine tune yourself to 8 to 12 percent body fat.

      If you get lean naturally from working out and eating correctly, that's cool. It just seems that aiming to get ripped can leave you gaunt and wiry, which I'm guessing is not very good for you.

      Maybe I'm wrong?

      Raza
      I think no. Coming from a guy from the US, I can say that in this country we have become used to people being fat as the norm. But if you look at people in some other countries, 8-12% is the norm.

      Its really crazy if you think about it. Because what seems to be normal for people in other countries is that which is thought to be hard to accomplish for someone in the states. You can't do it because of your genetics, you haven't found the right gimmick or supplement, It's Ronald McDonald's fault, excuses excuses, bla bla bla!!! I think you get my point. And yes, its the culture, not the food; I've known plenty of people who ate fast food every day and they didn't get fat. Why? Because they knew when to stop.

      Now is 3% healthy? Possibly not. But my bet is that if you strive to get there you'll be a lot more healthy than those who don't try at all. Ever since I dieted and got away from being obese, I've continued to aim for further improvements every year, now down to around 10%. I made it this far because I didn't stop trying. And yes, I'm a lot healthier than I was when I was about 27% and had trouble just to walk down the street. And I get A LOT more dates too!!!

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      • #78
        Originally posted by magicmerl View Post
        I think that some people on here are trying to lose weight/gain muscle for essentially cosmetic or vanity reasons.

        Functional strength and fitness is important though. That's what I'm shooting for, along with balanced hormones.
        I agree with all. The vanity part is easy and can be taken care of with as little as one workout per week, believe it or not. But for overall health and well being, I believe you need a lot more.

        As for the hormones, I believe that dieting too hard for too long can have a negative impact on hormones. That's why its better to have an aim to maintain. That is as opposed to how competitive bodybuilders will walk around heavier most of the year only to drop 50 lbs for a contest, and then they gain it all back again. That's stupid. I'd rather be lean all year long.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by paleo-bunny View Post
          +1.

          I find muscular people with a normal amount or moderate excess of body fat the most attractive and healthy-looking. This speaks health and vitality, while being relaxed. Lean muscle mass and functional strength and fitness override everything else as far as I am concerned.
          You have a good point there. I noticed I like thin women, and even sometimes leaner women with an athletic build, but never a ripped woman. All of my lady friends told me the same thing. Most like a somewhat muscular man. But they don't like guys who are ripped (fatless).

          From an evolutionary standpoint this makes a lot of sense. We are attracted to members of the opposite sex that look healthy, that which will ensure better chances of survival of our offspring. Some fat is healthy because it is essential and indicates nourishment. None means you are sick from starving and too much is a sickness as well. A healthy partner means you will have someone around to help take care of the kids.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Daemonized View Post
            In defense of the lean, I've had a single digit body fat percentage for a couple years now and I think it's great. I eat plenty of healthy foods and I workout five days a week. I feel great and my lifestyle works for me. I'm not saying that you everyone needs to be super lean but what's unhealthy about it?
            Now that I think about it, I'm glad that I have always strived to become leaner. Because right now while even being above average in muscularity, my BMI is slightly over 25 which isn't that bad, but my waist is still wider than it should be. And that's an indicater (even more so than BMI) that one needs to try to drop some fat. I probably have more fat than what it seems, because there is visceral fat hiding behind my abs!

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            • #81
              I find it interesting that so many have such a judgmental take to all of this. We as humans are designed to hold enough fat to keep it together during famine and hunting. Mark is probably between 8-10% bf and looks great. The idea that its unhealthy to carry lower body fat is ludicrous. It is very challenging for someone (man) to be under 8 and for woman 12-15 is about right for being athletic.

              In my opinion most have these impressions out of fear of not being enough (those who are convinced its not healthy) they have self imposed limitations to justify why they are not in their best nature shape. The amount of sacrifice we as humans make to be fat sloth's is unbelievable so to undo that you have to sacrifice a bit (which is actually repairing the damage) Once you have repaired that damage the maintenance is much easier.

              The unhealthy practices of getting to those low numbers is what is not good. We has people following PB are doing so for a bunch of reason but mostly for better health. If youre at your optimum performance at 25% and that is YOUR BEST then great. If youre sprinting the 100 in 12 seconds AWESOME! but without evidence to say xyz isnt healthy is as subjective as what bf you personally find appealing.

              For me I hate body hair and I hate fat. I like running 3miles in under 18 minutes and I like bench pressing 255 plus for reps. Thats me or squatting 400+ I have personal goals and thats what this life is a challenge and do I live up to it or does it eat me alive?

              Thats my take for what its worth

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              • #82
                Personally, I think "getting ripped" is a goal for too many people. That usually entails weight loss, then weight gain, then counting calories, then slimming back down for definition, etc... The list just goes on until the goal becomes an obsession. What happened to "getting ripped" being a result of having other passions and obsessions? Like one of the previous posters said, those climbing gyms, etc. have plenty of "ripped" folk, who usually got there by following their heart into some activity or other.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by jujeki View Post
                  Personally, I think "getting ripped" is a goal for too many people. That usually entails weight loss, then weight gain, then counting calories, then slimming back down for definition, etc... The list just goes on until the goal becomes an obsession. What happened to "getting ripped" being a result of having other passions and obsessions? Like one of the previous posters said, those climbing gyms, etc. have plenty of "ripped" folk, who usually got there by following their heart into some activity or other.

                  For me personally (Im 6'3" ish) and worked labor the majority of my life and have always been strong as hell. It takes a tremendous amount of volume for me to lean out. I worked construction most of my life so doing odds and ends (like rock climbing) does absolutely nothing for me but make me stronger but not leaner or bigger. For me it takes HEAVY compound lifts and things like boxing training and such, which I love.

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