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    I am having such a hard time giving up my "chronic cardio". Form many, many years I have ran, biked, hiked, or cross-country skied daily (on the weekends it is normal for me to be out for 4-7 hours moving most of the time). I have been trying to cut back on the cardio which is very hard for me and trying to focus on resistance type of acitivites. I have read MDA and have a understanding why it is not the best...I am just nervous that I will not have the endurance I have now if I cut back on it. It also does not "feel" normal to me to not do something carido daily with gettting my HR up and moving. Granted it does get moving with weight lifting. I guess I just needed to vent or look for some ideas on how to overcome this. I was following PB for 3 months in the summer, hit a small bump in the road and now I am back at it. During those 3 months I did not lose any weight or any inches. Hmmmmm

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    Lots here bike and hike for long periods of time - move slowly and play. If you enjoy it don't stress.
    This is not about weigh loss but eating and being healthy.
    Eating primal is not a diet, it is a way of life.
    PS
    Don't forget to play!

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    • #3
      If you are keeping your heart rate fairly low (say 60 to 70 % of your maximum heart rate) then don't worry about it. What Mark refers to is people that do endurance workouts at close to their anaerobic threshold for long periods. This creates stress and inflamation that can lead to injury and an impaired immune system. Back off the distance somewhat and head to the track once or twice a week for some intervals. You will maintain and probably improve your VO2.
      Last edited by canuck416; 11-05-2012, 09:03 PM.
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      • #4
        This is not about weigh loss but eating and being healthy.

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        • #5
          Just to reiterate what has been said before

          It's not chronic cardio if you are enjoying it

          Hiking, biking, cross-country sking, swimming, even running at a steady pace can fall into the move slowely catergory if you are already fit and used to this level of activity.

          If your heart rate isn't going up from LHT you aint doing it hard enough

          Put your self in Mark's shoes (I'm sure they are not too stinky) He has had a lifetime of overtraining to be a top level endurance althete, and was one of the best in the world, it was his full time job to train, and driven people like Mark are there own worse enemys when it comes to backing off and resting. This is where he is coming from when he talks of chronic cardio and over training - hours and hours and hours and hours of intense high level activity a week constantly trying to improve PBs etc etc
          Not some guy keeping fit round a full time job and family, going out for a few hours on a weekend for some active R&R
          You know all those pictures of Adam and Eve where they have belly button? Think about it..................... take as long as you need........................

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          • #6
            Thanks for your input. The only time my HR is above the 55-75% is when I go for a run. I have been trying to keep it low and boy is it tough. :-) Although the skiing uphill kicks me in the butt too. So I guess I am not doing too bad as far as chronic cardio goes.

            I do know PB lifestyle is a healthy way to live and eat..I was just a little bummed that I did not lose any weight. I have read many accounts of people getting quite lean. Oh well, as long as I feel great and can continue to do what I love who cares right?? Have a great day everyone!!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by canuck416 View Post
              Back off the distance somewhat and head to the track once or twice a week for some intervals. You will maintain and probably improve your VO2.
              Good advice.

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              • #8
                Are you wanting to lose fat?
                That's a differnt question with a whole heap of different answers.
                You know all those pictures of Adam and Eve where they have belly button? Think about it..................... take as long as you need........................

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                • #9
                  I agree if you enjoy it and it makes you feel good, go for it! I am guessing there were some groks who had more energy than the average grok. We cannot pigeon hole them as exactly the same. I love to run, bike, hike ect. It is part of who I am. And if it prevents me from having a 6 pack core so be it. I am very healthy and THAT is what is important to me.

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                  • #10
                    I do agree that the best fitness program is one that is both applicable to your goals, and offers personal fulfillment. But is it the running/biking itself that you enjoy? Or the feeling you receive from an endurance workout that challenges your aerobic capacity? I would argue if you're simply looking to improve or maintain your aerobic capacity, HIIT training is more beneficial than endurance training both in terms of improving aerobic capacity, building muscle mass, and being mindful of health and longevity.

                    Check out this article on my website about the psychology behind running. As a former endurance junkie I've got some experience in this area.

                    Runners: I'm Calling You Out - Whole Muscle Gains

                    Food for thought...
                    Alex Peterson-
                    Nutritional Consultant
                    Creator of The Whole Muscle Diet and the Whole Muscle Blog

                    www.wholemusclegains.com

                    The authority on nutrition for strength and lean mass gains without the use of supplements, meal-timing, or other unnecessary diet methods.

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                    • #11
                      Thanks again for all of your input. And yes...I am trying to lose fat. I enjoy the satisfaction I recieve after a long endurance type of activity. I would love to increase my areobic capacity. I think I will focus on intervals which may help me achieve my goals.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by PaleoAP View Post
                        I would argue if you're simply looking to improve or maintain your aerobic capacity, HIIT training is more beneficial than endurance training both in terms of improving aerobic capacity, building muscle mass, and being mindful of health and longevity.
                        I agree.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by solobiker View Post
                          I am having such a hard time giving up my "chronic cardio". Form many, many years I have ran, biked, hiked, or cross-country skied daily (on the weekends it is normal for me to be out for 4-7 hours moving most of the time). I have been trying to cut back on the cardio which is very hard for me and trying to focus on resistance type of acitivites. I have read MDA and have a understanding why it is not the best...I am just nervous that I will not have the endurance I have now if I cut back on it. It also does not "feel" normal to me to not do something carido daily with gettting my HR up and moving. Granted it does get moving with weight lifting. I guess I just needed to vent or look for some ideas on how to overcome this. I was following PB for 3 months in the summer, hit a small bump in the road and now I am back at it. During those 3 months I did not lose any weight or any inches. Hmmmmm
                          I don't think I could say I have even been as hard core as you are but I've been a runner for about 32 years and am having the same kind of issue. I have never been really fast or competitive, I just liked it. I am trying to get on board with the Maffetone kind of thing but it just kinda depresses me. So I have taken up walking 3 times a week during lunch for an hour and trying to sprint once a week and work on the primal movements (come on pull up!). If I feel like going for a run I'm just going to do it the way I'm used to it and enjoy it. I'm really only out for like 30-40 minutes at a time now anyway. I started PB on Oct 1, 2012 140lbs and basically have bumbled up and down between 138-140 this whole time, at 5'7". But today I had to go buy the next smaller sized pants because my old ones are hanging off me. So SOMETHING is happening for the good. I'm forcing myself to learn it's not all about the scale...
                          Breathe. Move forward.

                          I just eat what I want...

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                          • #14
                            Well...today instead of going on my "normal" run or bike ride I went for a walk and did several ( 12-15 ) 30 second sprints. All I can say is Wow!! It felt great and I feel like I got an awesome workout. Plus it was pretty fun as it broke me out of my habit of my standard pace. I am tryiing very hard to get away from the scale because it does not protray health or wellness.

                            Thanks again for all of the advice. I

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                            • #15
                              Do you feel like a flailing raving goof while sprinting? After all these years of running my muscles clearly don't remember sprinting AT ALL. But I'm gonna get better at it damnit!
                              Breathe. Move forward.

                              I just eat what I want...

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