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    So I keep reading on here about the issues of chronic cardio and am not quite sure of a definition.

    Would appreciate some input


    Is chronic a term applied the duration of training you do, or is it only for when you go above 70% of max heart rate?

    Basically, per week I train:

    weight lifting (total of 2 hrs/wk). Intense.

    Sprinting (total of 30 mins/wk). Intense.

    FUN exercise e.g. jogging with mates, rock climbing and yoga/posture exercises (total of 3.5 hrs/wk). Light to medium cardio.

    Total duration around 6/7 hours per wk.


    On top of that I do general life activities.


    Does this sound like too much or am I ok?

    Charlie

  • #2
    Sounds fine. Chronic cardio is when you go out for a run/medium intensity activity without enjoying it for sustained periods.

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    • #3
      Gotcha, thanks!

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      • #4
        If you keep your heart rate below 180-age it will never be "chronic cardio".
        Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
          If you keep your heart rate below 180-age it will never be "chronic cardio".
          Is it not 220 - age? Or is that the 75% max heart rate thing?

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          • #6
            Running itself isn't bad for you. Even a couple times a week.

            Running 7 miles, 6 days a week. That's too much.
            (Speaking from experience.)

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            • #7
              I think it becomes cronic when it stops being fun. I actually think no-one should 'do cardio' it just sounds so dull. Run if you enjoy it, cycle if you enjoy it, swim if you enjoy it. Do it for as long as it's fun.

              Mark is coming at it from a very different place than most people - years and years of intense training to be a top international althlete, though I agree no-one should train like this - even top professional would benifit from more recovery time IMO.
              You know all those pictures of Adam and Eve where they have belly button? Think about it..................... take as long as you need........................

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              • #8
                At a hotel, hitting their gym each morning...

                People watching is fun. The gym door opens and they invariably walk right to the treadmill, cycle machine or elliptical.

                Then they sit there forever, looking low energy, doing some incredibly moderate cardio while watching TV, reading the newspaper, or playing with their phone.

                That does *NOTHING*.

                Only one guy in two weeks hit the weights with me, dude was also the only person without a zombie-like expression on his face.

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                • #9
                  IMO unless you are running a 5 or 10K, 1.5 miles jogging is about it. And this only serves as a warm-up for your normal exercise routine. If on a treadmill (I know I know) I like to pace at 8.2 (about 7:15 miles) which is only 11-12 minutes of your time. Twice per week for me, but I "play" so i get lots of extra cardio and have a sprint/legs day.

                  Hotel gyms are depressing, I agree 100%. If the weather allows, I hit the streets and jog/run push-up jump wherever I can.

                  Again I think it depends on the person, but have fun with it. Jogging sucks.
                  Full on Primal family and loving it!!!
                  This is going to be a big year for vitamins and minerals!

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                  • #10
                    I prefer calling it running. If it feels like fun and not over exerting, you are fine. It's good for your cardio vascular health.

                    CrossFit can become addictive (from what I've heard and read) and chronic overstress on the body. And yet no one in the Paleo/Primal community ever bashes CF.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by KimchiNinja View Post
                      At a hotel, hitting their gym each morning...

                      People watching is fun. The gym door opens and they invariably walk right to the treadmill, cycle machine or elliptical.

                      Then they sit there forever, looking low energy, doing some incredibly moderate cardio while watching TV, reading the newspaper, or playing with their phone.

                      That does *NOTHING*.

                      Only one guy in two weeks hit the weights with me, dude was also the only person without a zombie-like expression on his face.
                      I think you're describing me. I'm pretty sure that I have a zombie-like expression whenever I'm on the treadmill or out running or lifting weights or at Crossfit. Well, I'm more likely to smile at CF due to the fact that I'm interacting with others. When working out alone, zombie it is! But I do love my runs, even on the treadmill and even if I don't look like I'm enjoying it. (I'm just one of those people who always looks like they have the most unenjoyable life ever--one of my friends actually described me that way once! Heh!)

                      Originally posted by Graycat View Post
                      I prefer calling it running. If it feels like fun and not over exerting, you are fine. It's good for your cardio vascular health.

                      CrossFit can become addictive (from what I've heard and read) and chronic overstress on the body. And yet no one in the Paleo/Primal community ever bashes CF.
                      Oh, some people bash CF plenty.

                      My journal

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                      • #12
                        Everyday Paleo and Eplifefit (author of Paleo Coach) bash it every week on their podcast.

                        You can get all the cardiovascular VO2 fitness from just 10-20 minutes of full out sprints per week.

                        Anything else is oxidative to the body.

                        The above coupled with lifting heavy twice a week and lots of walking are all we need.


                        Excuse me for any typos and sarcastic remarks, sent from my iPhone using Marks Daily Apple Forum mobile app

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Pillow View Post
                          Hotel gyms are depressing, I agree 100%.
                          In these people's defense, they could have been jet-lagged, I guess. But they just looked like they were marching to their death, woo hoo cardio at 5am!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by KimchiNinja View Post
                            At a hotel, hitting their gym each morning...

                            People watching is fun. The gym door opens and they invariably walk right to the treadmill, cycle machine or elliptical.

                            Then they sit there forever, looking low energy, doing some incredibly moderate cardio while watching TV, reading the newspaper, or playing with their phone.

                            That does *NOTHING*.

                            Only one guy in two weeks hit the weights with me, dude was also the only person without a zombie-like expression on his face.
                            Yes, there is a big bathhouse with a gym where I live. You look from the swim area through the big windows to the gym, and all you see is people on those exercise bikes lined up against the window, looking out at you.

                            Not only do they have to buy an expensive monthly card for bathhouse access, they also pay extra for the gym. Why not just stay in the enormous bathhouse with its great swimming pools of all kinds and sizes? Do some laps, then sit in the bubble pool, then do some more laps, then go sit in the sauna.

                            No, they have to feel the sweat, so they stay on their exercise bikes. Very few people use the other machines. Amazing. Just buy a bike and put in your house then, for God's sake. Or maybe actually use a real bike, we have great country roads where you can see horses and sheep and water. But no. They have to sit staring out that window. Much like the sheep stare at you when you ride down the country road.


                            And THAT's chronic cardio.

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                            • #15
                              Cardio may be labeled as "chronic" if it turns into an OCD routine that hampers general recovery, catabolizing lean body tissue, reduces strength and makes you feel crappy etc. It's individual how much cardio people can take due to overall lifestyle, age, training background etc., but I enjoy doing an hour of mixed cardio in the morning, depending on how I feel...
                              "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

                              - Schopenhauer

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