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    Hey everyone. I was watching a very fascinating documentary about women's obsession with thinness.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lxbcPwRuj4


    Watch the whole doc, it is quite interesting. But it did make me wonder, is having a good body composition achieved through healthy means achievable for most women? I've never really liked skinny women, unless the face was utter perfection. I've always been more attracted to fit and strong women.


    Personally, I have found the best Hollywood bodies to have been Linda Hamilton in Terminator 2, Jessica Biel in Blade Trinity, Janette Goldstein in Aliens, and Hilary Swank in Million Dollar Baby.


    In the real world I have found the more effeminate women of Crossfit, Jackie from Girlwithnoname (http://www.girlwithnoname.com/about/), and Mark's own wife Carrie (don't kill me Mark) to be especially attractive.


    But is that really an achievable body shape for many women, or are they just blessed genetically? Moreover, is being lean without a couple of love handles actually healthy?


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    Mark just posted a link to what I consider an ideal female body comp/shape. It's the link to Coach Tara doing pushups. She looks pretty much perfect, IMO. More so than her body comp I like how she moves and has the strength to do all the stuff she does. Impressive. It was her video workouts that convinced me to move my workouts more in the direction of what she does.


    bruce b.

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      bruce, I'm with you. Coach Tara looks GREAT. Maybe someday I'll be able to have a strong lean body like hers.

      Eating lots but still hungry? Eat more fat. Mid-day sluggishness? Eat more fat. Feeling depressed or irritable? Eat more fat. People think you've developed an eating disorder? Eat more fat... in front of them.

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        Were is the link to Coach Tara vid?

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          Home Page, Mark's Daily Apple TV, Coach Tara

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            I couldn't go more than a minute. Our society's phobia with skinny is sick, sick, sick. I came of age during the sixties and other than a few bodybuilders your body was what it was. It was natural, tweaked a little this way or that by some exercise or choice of diet, but not this obsession.


            Only two days ago my GF emailed me a Victoria's Secret sale flyer "for my enjoyment." Here is what I wrote back with: "I'll tell you candidly, most models like this don't turn me on. (OK, OK, if one tried to seduce me she wouldn't have any problem doing so!) But in terms of my preferences, I like real women. Girls next door. Not media perfect. Hips, as the goddess intended for women to have but are now unfashionable. Lines by her eyes that tell me she has life experience and is not a vacuous vessel waiting to be filled.


            You know, women like you."


            I have an 18 year old niece who is stunning, yet she is worried about everything having to do with her body. How did she get this way? Brainwashed by the media - often by other women.


            As if this whole size zero crap-ola isn't bad enough, there is a long series on Youtube from the BBC about women mutilating their labia because they think them big or ugly. They call it surgery, I call it mutilation.


            Signed, Old School

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              I love being a strong woman with muscles, I always think in case of an emergency at least I could carry someone to safety!


              One of my workmates who is tiny and absolutely gorgeous said the other day her thighs were too big and she would like a gap between her legs like the models have and I had a go at her, she is a perfect as she is and has she ever seen a model close up, they are revolting, I was walking behind two girls the other day from a modeling agency and I actually felt sick at their thinness, a good steak wouldn’t go astray.


              Whenever I see women like Tara I always think what great role models they are, but most of my female friends would say she looks too butch or masculine but think Nicole Richie looks good, what is wrong with them??

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                From my female perspective, it's very frustrating to see a very subjective thing, attractiveness, forced into a cookie-cutter image that only a small percentage of women can achieve. The rest of us who can't achieve that look are left wanting and thoroughly informed of our failure to achieve the "ideal."


                I've always looked up to Linda Hamilton in T2 and love kick-ass women like Jennifer Garner in Alias. They give me something to aspire to but within the limitations of my body. I'm not after the perfect body, I'm after a functional, capable body. In my mind, the way my body looks has little bearing on its capabilities.


                I'm always going to have hips and boobs and maybe even love handles. But I'm working towards being able to rock the pushups like Coach Tara and I consider it a much greater achievement for my body to be able to do that than shed its love handles.


                And anyone who has the nerve to tell me it's not the greater achievement better be very capable themselves or prepare for a boot up their ass.

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                  Bayou - big hug to you!

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                    What's interesting is that men, by and large, are not attracted to the waif look. I'm definitely not, and I think OnTheBayou concurs.


                    There is nothing quite like a set of hips on a woman.


                    Who the hell is actually lusting after a woman with a ten year old boy's body? I just don't get it.

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                      I think we're also in something of a self-selected group when it comes to what we find appealing; there was a great link posted I think on this forum a bit back that discussed "bulkiness" in female training seriously, rather than just "you won't get bulky, move on". The author took a poll of 2000 women, using actresses and models and comparison, and the firm majority of them found many of the women already mentioned in this thread- T2-era Linda Hamilton, MDB-era Hillary Swank, and Jessica Biel- "too bulky". Men weren't polled, but given how often on Youtube when looking at women like Coach Tara or a woman repping out pullups, I see a lot of disparaging comments apparently from men along the lines of "That's a MAN".... well, maybe they feel similar.


                      Now me, I'd *love* to look like MDB-era Hillary Swank. That's not bulky to me, that's strong and fit, and I suspect most of the rest of you would agree... but we may well be in the minority, sadly.

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                        I tend to gravitate more towards very curvy women (Monica Bellucci, Kate Winslet, etc.), and muscle tone is always good. If girls are naturally slender then that's okay, but a lot of girls try to be too thin nowadays, or have a low bf% without any muscle to add some substance on.

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                          Let's not forget about Russia

                          “Every saint has a past and every sinner has a future.” -Oscar Wilde
                          "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." -George Bernard Shaw
                          "The trouble with jogging is that the ice falls out of your glass." -Martin Mull

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                            Personally, I'm a fan of fit, curvy and/or fit & curvy.

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                              Musajen, before I got your hug message, I was thinking, "Hmmmm....large hips and boobs. Works (well) for me." LOL!


                              The voluptuous woman is so out of style it hurts. Mae West, Sophia Loren, many others that my-never-very-good-with-names-memory can't recall. Like a song that won't leave, I can't shake the memory of a 50? year old woman I saw at the beach THREE weeks ago. Voluptuous and then some. I'm sure the guy walking with her appreciated her!

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