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  • #16
    Aussienana - you go girl ! Fantastic to hear about your successes, and experimenting is the best way to move forward. Just a thought, have you checked your selenium levels ????? Selenium can be extremely toxic, however there is very little in our soils here in NZ. My husband and I try to have 3 x brazil nuts every other day to keep the levels up. He recently had his full bloods done, and the Doctor suggested that he must stop taking selenium suppements immediately !
    This is a little scarey to think that the Brazil nuts were that high in selenium, and these were the most likely suspect.
    Anyway just a thought.
    Keep at it girl
    "never let the truth get in the way of a good story "

    ...small steps....

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    • #17
      Misti, I really know what you mean about getting up off the floor! When I went to karate at the beginning it was my biggest problem. I got into karate when my grandchildren's sensei asked me, along with all the other parents taking children, when we were going to start. After 6 weeks I thought, "Why not?" So I gave it a go. I was amazed at how easily the young ones just moved their legs and rose from the floor with ease. The sensei would go from kneeling to rolling back onto his toes and just standing from there. It took a couple of weeks of observing how he did it, then about 12 months of practice till I could do it when wearing shoes/slippers and another 6 months till my toes were flexible enough to do it in bare feet on a wooden floor. I still have to do it with conscious thought but it is so much easier than my previous staggering around.

      Might I suggest that you work on a couple of flexibility items. Choose something that doesn't cause too much pain. I think as we age and when we've been immobile for a long time that it can take us longer to get there but I've found I can over time. At the moment I'm working on my wrists. They have been a weak point all my life and make doing pushups very difficult - always have. Probably due to the arthritis I developed around the age of 16 though I remember they were weak before that too.

      Zoebird suggest swimming and that's a common recommendation. I'd try it, but if you do and you find yourself coming home exhausted - more than is justified by the amount of exercise you do - then you will have a thyroid problem and the chlorine in the water will be replacing the iodine, suppressing the thyroid. In those cases it suggests an iodine deficiency - despite what many people will suggest. I don't swim much as I found it mucked up the rest of my day though adding iodine supplements helped a lot.

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      • #18
        Thanks

        Zoebird, thanks for the suggestion!

        Aussienana, my youngest son also studies karate and his sensei has also suggested that my husband and I study along with him. I tried qi gong at the dojo instead--for a short while--but that's still way in my future.

        However after reading your mention of how you worked up to the squats, I have been doing something similar to what I think you said you have done. First, I asked my son to show me how he squats so I had some idea what I was going for. He did it several times slowly, and now I do it several times between sets of chores in the morning. No one else in the world would recognize it as a squat, but I go as far as I can and hold until I start to shake, then I stand up, shake my legs out, and do it again. I figure eventually I'll build up my strength and be able to go deeper. I also started doing the qi gong longevity exercises I learned at the dojo...and downloaded Mark's exercise book and am reading that while I do my "squats".

        Thank you again. I appreciate your post -- it seems I just needed a sense that it wasn't too late to start figuring out how to do it.
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        Last edited by Misti; 08-31-2012, 01:52 PM.
        Misti
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        Grain Free since 2009, WP from 2005
        ~100% primal (because anything less makes me very sick)
        Goal: hike across Sweden with my grandchildren when I retire in a few years

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        • #19
          AussieNana,

          though I'm a few years younger than you (but by no means young any more), I can tell you: it will get better. Your body will produce more mitochondria and with your diet and supplements they will get better at producing energy. So exercise will get easier and you will become stronger. Fear not. And give yourself time - also for recovery.

          The other thing which you might consider is to have your hormones checked and if there's anything below optimal, think about BHRT. It can help a lot.

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          • #20
            Thank you! I am younger than you but no spring chicken and also am paying for years of inactivity and horrible eating. More than once since I started this journey in April I have wondered if I am fooling myself by thinking I can heal and repair. Your post has helped so much in just knowing someone else is fighting the same battle and winning. I know it seems so slow but don't give up. You can and will accomplish all you have set out to....
            You know all those things you wanted to do: You should go do them.

            Age 48
            height 5'3
            SW 215 lbs
            CW 180 lbs (whole foods/primal eating)
            LW 172 lbs
            GW 125ish lbs

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            • #21
              Hello, AussieNana!

              You wrote "I do NOT want to continue to deteriorate as I see so many people of my age do. I'm improving, but, my goodness it takes focus and determination to make the changes after all this time."

              I can so identify with your words! I am a bit younger than you are (nearing 55), but I'm fighting the same battle. I come from a lifetime of absolutely no physical fitness, and I'm trying to get fit for the first time. I watch with horror how people just ten years older than me stumble by with their walkers and canes, and I do not want to go down that road ... My mother had her first hip replacement when she was my age.

              My compliments for taking up karate! That must have taken a lot of courage. Now, I don't know much about autoimmune diseases; my nemesis that I'm fighting is diabetes. I have been doing weight training for eight months now (machines, not free weights - there is a chain of gyms here in Germany that uses machines that are based on Nautilus / MedX machines which you maybe know), and the coaches say I lift quite heavily for a woman. I could improve my glucose numbers somewhat, but my doc recommended to add more exercise, so now I walk a lot which is the only other exercise that I can do. (Still working on the squats, in my case it's the edge of the bathtub that I cling to for dear life.)

              In all that time I haven't lost one pound, which is discouraging, although I lost one and a half dress sizes. (Still sitting at 210 pounds where I have been for years.) What gets me is that at this age and with this history, any progress is so slow.

              Others have chimed in who are in the same situation. Maybe we can keep each other posted on our progress? I think older ladies are in a completely different position from the young people here, especially the guys who go primal, ramp up their exercise and post success photos of their abs and ripped muscles three months later. Not happening here so far ...

              Sorry for any grammar mistakes, English is not my mother tongue.

              Good luck to you all!
              Last edited by Bess58; 09-04-2012, 04:45 AM.

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              • #22
                Bess,

                I too am terrified of being dependent on wheelchairs, walkers, etc as I get older. To the point that if I am at the store with the idea that I want something bad for me all it takes is one person who in a scooter or someone very heavy with a bunch of junk in their carts to put me back on track. As it is my knees hurt all the time, my back hurts at the end of the day and my left hip hurts a lot. I like your idea of supporting each other. It is a different scenario and struggle than the younger people have.

                And your English is wonderful! I admire you for being that conversant in another language.
                You know all those things you wanted to do: You should go do them.

                Age 48
                height 5'3
                SW 215 lbs
                CW 180 lbs (whole foods/primal eating)
                LW 172 lbs
                GW 125ish lbs

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                • #23
                  Hi, valmason!

                  Thanks a lot for your kind words about my English. It's my job, I am a translator.

                  I am impressed that there are so many of us who do not give up, but struggle to become fit even if it's late in our lives. Maybe we could make a thread of our own - sorry, OP, I don't mean to hijack your thread with my suggestion. Let's wait and hear what other people think.

                  Re: your aches and pains. Have you ever tried fishoil capsules (omega 3)? I have been taking them for years now - 2 grams a day. When I forget to take them for a while, for example when I don't replace the empty package, my pains come back (bad knee from an accident, herniated disc and pains in my finger joints). I have often read that even if a joint is damaged, there is always inflammation that plays a role too. And the omega 3s fight inflammation.

                  Sending you all best wishes and my favorite quote: "Growing old is not for sissies!"

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                  • #24
                    You must be very good at your job

                    And I like the idea of starting our own thread..Maybe aussienana will chime in too

                    I do take fishoil capsules..4 a day actually...I have also started taking tumeric, a spice, but I take it in capsule form. It is an anti inflammatory and I can tell a difference when I take it.

                    I like your quote..you are very right Keep working...the body was created to heal!
                    You know all those things you wanted to do: You should go do them.

                    Age 48
                    height 5'3
                    SW 215 lbs
                    CW 180 lbs (whole foods/primal eating)
                    LW 172 lbs
                    GW 125ish lbs

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                    • #25
                      I haven't been around long, but I love the idea of having a thread for those of us who are older and not likely to see the dramatic changes the young fellows see right away.

                      For me it's not about weight, but about health, so I'm not bothered by not seeign abs or by slooow progress in learning to so squats. Still, without regular reinforcement, I can see how having the super-healthy young folk making vast progress toward their goals could be disheartening...

                      Originally posted by Bess58 View Post
                      Others have chimed in who are in the same situation. Maybe we can keep each other posted on our progress? I think older ladies are in a completely different position from the young people here, especially the guys who go primal, ramp up their exercise and post success photos of their abs and ripped muscles three months later. Not happening here so far ...
                      Misti
                      ***
                      Grain Free since 2009, WP from 2005
                      ~100% primal (because anything less makes me very sick)
                      Goal: hike across Sweden with my grandchildren when I retire in a few years

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                      • #26
                        Let me know if y'all want to get started!
                        You know all those things you wanted to do: You should go do them.

                        Age 48
                        height 5'3
                        SW 215 lbs
                        CW 180 lbs (whole foods/primal eating)
                        LW 172 lbs
                        GW 125ish lbs

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                        • #27
                          I'm in!

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                          • #28
                            In addition to a new thread for seniors, I would suggest emailing Mark to see if he will do a front-page blog post for seniors. Even though he doesn't look it, Mark himself is pushing 60.

                            AussieNana, can you buy pepper spray (mace) in Australia in case of a home invasion? At close range it's probably as effective as a weapon. If nothing else it will give you more time to run away.
                            5'0" female, 45 years old. Started Primal October 31, 2011, at a skinny fat 111.5 lbs. Low weight: 99.5 lb on a fast. Gained back to 115(!) on SAD chocolate, potato chips, and stress. Currently 111.

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