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    Since March 1st I've gone Primal. Here I am sitting on 280(Sounds like a lot I know but give me a chance to explain my physique) I've lost 50 lbs, but it doesn't really show. I'm losing some of the stretch mark "wrinkles" in my arms, my calves are looking solid, my thighs are getting there, very little fat left. My gut is what's holding about 40 lbs (If that) of fat left to melt off. As for my weight-no I'm not worried. I'm 6'1 with a very, VERY bulky build skeleton wise I'm easily in the realm of "Big Boned". My question is, is it normal to not notice a huge difference in my overall girth despite being down that much? I've noticed I'm at least twice as strong as I was when i started and I have seen some minor differences in my physique but even my girlfriend isn't sure where the hell the 50 lbs went. Am I just being paranoid?

    To cover some bases, same scale every time, weighed once a week, steadily dropping pounds every week, starting the sprinting regime this week(Tried in the past but my legs just couldn't support that kind of speeds, and I can't sprint slowly without mid/heel striking. I've been walking around completely barefoot for 2 months now(Shows only for stores and such, at that, VFF's). I think that's everything. Sorry if I rambled

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    I am sure you will get more educated answers than the one that I am about to give you but here is my opinion. Some people just hold weight predominately in a certain area and that is the last weight to come off when you begin to lose.

    For me personally, its the love handles. When I gain weight, its the first place it shows up. When I lose weight, its the last place for it to disappear from. It drives me crazy. I can get a gut when I am significantly overweight, but its only after the weight on my flanks has shown up in force.

    Keep doing what you are doing and you will eventually start to lose your stubborn area fat as well.

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    • #3
      when i first started losing weight, i was up over 300, and it took at least 50 pounds for me to start noticing. a lot of the fat that we lose first is the bad, visceral fat around the organs, then the subcutaneous fat around the rest of our bodies. and, it's true what zpotter says, people hold fat in specific areas. additionally, it's not uncommon to lose a lot in water weight at the get go. if you're not concerned about the number on the scale, start measuring different numbers: body fat percentage, arm-leg-waist measurements, etc.

      sprinting will help a lot in slimming you down, so will heavy lifting and plenty of moving slowly.
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      • #4
        You said you are holding quite a bit of weight in your belly. Is it possible you could have some bloating issues? My partner has a similar situation: thin, good weight and muscular...but his belly is the last hold out. He has, and has had for years, significant bloating. It's not uncomfortable to him, which I think is because he's gotten used to it. We're now doing an elimination diet to see if we can isolate what is causing it. Just a thought.
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        • #5
          I have lost almost 100 lbs, I am a big dude too. My ending goal weight will be somewhere around 250. Someone here once said, "you lose weight to look good in clothes, you workout to look good nekid".... Are you working out? I think I am looking dashing in my 40 inch waist jeans as opposed to the 48's I was wearing a year ago, but when I look at myself in the mirror, naked, I say to myself, damn I sure have a way to go still... Remember, you are not just fat on the outside, but all through your body. A lot of that 50 lbs was fat around your heart, and that is the best fat to lose... hang in their and keep up the fantastic work.
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          • #6
            I'm down 90 lbs (with 50 to go), and I have been losing from the top down, and the bottom up. The last hold out is my belly, where I kept most of my weight. Don't stress it too much, your body will even itself out. Just keep doing what you are doing, and before you know it, your belly will go!

            By the way, excellent work!

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            • #7
              Don't forget that you are losing visceral fat as well and that does not show.
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              • #8
                [QUOTE=zpotter;906585]I am sure you will get more educated answers than the one that I am about to give you but here is my opinion. Some people just hold weight predominately in a certain area and that is the last weight to come off when you begin to lose.

                ^^This. I've lost 10% body fat since December, and my upper body looks very lean. However, my hips and thighs - not that much of a difference. I've talked to my trainer about this and he said that it will probably be the last area to see improvement, and will only come with overall lower body fat plus some focused attention on squats, etc, to continue to build muscle in that area.

                Are you lifting weights at all?
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                • #9
                  Do you have pictures from before? Take some 'during' photos. I hardly see a difference when I look in the mirror, either. However, I can see a difference in pictures when they're right next to each other.

                  I mean, it's easy to look in a mirror and see a difference if you were fat and now you're skinny. But when you're fat vs slightly less fat, it is more difficult to just eyeball it. People lose from everywhere at once, so it's not always easy to spot the difference, especially if you're looking at an area that's still big. Your brain will just say "no progress" even if there has been plenty of progress.

                  I mean, imagine that you've looked at a river every day for the last several months. The water level is dropping at an imperceptible rate. Would you notice now if the water level is 6 inches lower than it was then? Probably not. But if you compared two pictures you might.

                  Also keep in mind that, at your weight, 50lbs is a smaller percentage than it would be for someone smaller than you. So you may be expecting more dramatic results than are realistic. I've just about lost 50lbs too and I'm much smaller than you. And I can barely see the difference in the mirror either, though my clothes are several sizes smaller. So keep that in mind.

                  Also, are you keeping measurements? That might be helpful.

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                  • #10
                    I started at 340# (I'm 6') and lost ~30 in the last two months and I'm the only person that can tell. Even then, it's only been in the last week that I'm noticing the slightest difference in my face. Nothing yet with my gut. Personally until I'm well past the 50lb do I expect to see major differences.

                    Also based on your post (not your topic title) it looks like you are noticing differences w/ stretch marks, legs, etc. Don't worry too much about it. You have a ways to go. The fact that you are feeling significantly better and stronger is a huge indicator that you're on the right track. All that visceral fat isn't suffocating your organs anymore. I'm still 310 and feeling the best I have in years. Can't wait to get down to 220.
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                    • #11
                      "Show" is a subjective term. Have you explicitly measured abdominal girth? Clothes fit any different?

                      I'm about the same height & body type as you...6'2", started at 341 (or possibly more) and am now down to 231. I too seemed to lose from the extremities first while retaining abdominal fat. Annoying, but common. Even now I appear to have lost much of the trunk girth as visceral fat, with the subcutaneous layer persisting quite stubbornly. That bodes well for health but shortchanges expectations and vanity.

                      50 lbs can spread itself pretty thin over a big frame...and I'll bet that insidiousness is part of how you got to max weight in the first place. When you're at 320, 10 lbs more isn't a very noticeable change--and unfortunately the same principle applies as you lose. Yet the fat IS disappearing, and you'll probably hit a "tipping point" where it really shows. Then you can enjoy that phase until you hit a stall :-D

                      For me, the unsolicited comments from others didn't start in earnest until ~80 lbs down. Also keep in mind that wearing the same baggy outfits and just cinching the old belt tighter will mask progress far longer than buying new close-fitting clothing.
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                      • #12
                        Ting is, I don't think it's physically possible for me to drop to 220, 250 sure, but 220 I think I'd look emaciated. I might give ghandi a run for his money. So basically, don't worry, continue as planned? Should I focus on hitting it a bit harder if I want to see results sooner? I'm not exactly hitting the muscle buildup all that quickly, even by the PB standards

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Concrete Indian View Post
                          Thing is, I don't think it's physically possible for me to drop to 220, 250 sure, but 220 I think I'd look emaciated.
                          You know, I'm a lady, but I have always felt the same way. I've been big my whole life, both tall and thick. My wrists and ankles are like tree trunks and I'm just huge. I figured I would always be big because I have always been big. However, I looked at A LOT of before-and-after pictures of women whose bodies look like mine, and came to the conclusion that I could probably be a lot smaller than I'd previously thought, even accounting for a larger frame. And so far I seem to be correct. I'm currently 13lbs from my original goal, and I'm still quite fat.

                          So my suggestion would be to look at a lot of before-and-after pictures for a realistic idea of how you might look at lower weights, and just keep doing what you're doing for now. I hate reality tv (and all tv, honestly), but I find that Biggest Loser before-and-afters are pretty interesting. Those people get so much smaller than I would ever guess they could become. And they're not even doing it in the most healthy, easy, and lean-mass-preserving sort of way, but they look really good.

                          In any case, you will get to where you are going eventually, whatever weight that ends up being. But I think you might be surprised in the end. It might be a lot lower than you thought.

                          As for whether you should work out more, I would suggest weight-lifting because it's awesome. And shovelglove, because it's even more awesome. I am personally trying to build muscle so my fat isn't as lame and droopy as I lose it. Couldn't tell you if it's helping at all, as I have no control group, but I enjoy it anyway. And no one wants to end up at their goal weight weak and with a lot of work still ahead of them. Kill two birds with one stone: lose fat and gain muscle at the same time. Why not?

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                          • #14
                            @ Gravyboat my whole family holds very large frames(And I mean frames as in take away the skin and muscle just leaving the bones, we're a far cry from being small, especially the men. The women can be quite diverse but all the men have frames that make defensemen cry.) So when I say I don't see myself dropping below 250 it's because even looking at my smallest relatives on my mom's side of the family(Whom I greatly take after) sits at 240lbs lean muscle mass at 5'10. For further evidence, my rib cage is gaining muscle mass and I still feel ginourmous compared to the average individual, oh well, I just chalk it up to my Native blood, like I do to most of my odd quirks :P Anyway, I'm starting to see what you guys mean, compared to what I looked like in the past from a side view in the mirror I have improved and when I activate my core to it's hardest I can feel how strong my abdominal muscles have gotten and it surprises me how far in I can bring in the fat...I'm beginning to lean towards some bloat like someone else mentioned.

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