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    Hey everyone

    So I've been completely primal for 5 days now (I wasnt eating a lot of carbs previously but have cut out my daily brown rice and slice of Rye bread and have stop having my daily 2 squares of chocolate)and last night did my first strength workout and it was seriously hard work.

    Ive been training for years and would normally have had plenty of energy to complete a workout like that. Is it just that I havent started burning fat properly yet?

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    It is because it is your fist lifting workout. You have probably started with too much weight.

    What lifts did you do and what weight did you use for each lift?
    Eating primal is not a diet, it is a way of life.
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    • #3
      You have probably started with too much weight. x2

      I do that pretty often when I'm starting a new routine. All of the farm work and heavy labor I did growing up primed me into thinking I can lift anything if I put my back into it.

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      • #4
        Maybe the adjustment.

        Sometimes I wonder if it psychological, if you expect carb flu or effect on exercise, by reading too much first. I see it when I try convert my mates to paleo

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        • #5
          takes longer than 5 days for ur body to switch. I was the same at first too. Tired and weak.

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          • #6
            Just using body weight so not lifting too much. 20 full press are normally achievable but were exhausting. Gona stick at though as u can't expect change to happen over night hey

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            • #7
              weightlifting uses glycogen. it's glycolytic work. when you go really low carb, you drain your body of glycogen. takes a long time to replace muscle glycogen on a low carb diet. ergo, glycolytic work is gonna feel like shit.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by jakey View Post
                weightlifting uses glycogen. it's glycolytic work. when you go really low carb, you drain your body of glycogen. takes a long time to replace muscle glycogen on a low carb diet. ergo, glycolytic work is gonna feel like shit.
                and is there a way around this, other than eating more carbs?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Kingofturtles View Post
                  and is there a way around this, other than eating more carbs?
                  not in my opinion. i don't know, different people may adapt differently. i kept lifting during 8 months of constant ketosis, and kept noticing less & less strength, longer recovery times, decreased performance, and ultimately some really, really troubling migraine type headaches that would come on with exertion. i tried everything under the sun, in an effort not to admit that it was lack of carbs. nothing fixed the issue (take magnesium! take potassium! more salt! drink water! yoga & foam rolling! vary your rep schemes), but the instant i added carbs back and broke out of my self-imposed VLC jail - voila, no more problems, strength and performance were back.

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                  • #10
                    If primal was so right for you, then why would you not be able to work out sufficiently without adding non primal carbs to your diet? Seems odd to me. I constantly see this on the forums; people needing to bend the rules in order to do normal things.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Kingofturtles View Post
                      If primal was so right for you, then why would you not be able to work out sufficiently without adding non primal carbs to your diet? Seems odd to me. I constantly see this on the forums; people needing to bend the rules in order to do normal things.
                      Non-primal carbs are sugar, flour, and grain...potatoes, rice, and fruit/veg carbs are primal.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Kingofturtles View Post
                        If primal was so right for you, then why would you not be able to work out sufficiently without adding non primal carbs to your diet? Seems odd to me. I constantly see this on the forums; people needing to bend the rules in order to do normal things.
                        who said anything about non-primal carbs?! no, sir. (ma'am? i dunno...) anyway, i eat sweet potatoes, green plantains and fruit each and every day. i feel great. probably get around 100 grams of real carbs each and every day (i don't count greens and cucumbers like some sad souls around here). no bread, no sugar, no grains.

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                        • #13
                          My understanding was that carbs were bad. Thats is why he wants you to stop eating so many of them. Turn your body from a carb/sugar burner into a fat burner. If you cut down carbs in order to burn fat, but then you you need to injext more carbs or else your body doesnt function properly as far as working out goes, it seems contradictory. Does it not? I know it isnt a 0 carb diet, it more like a 100 carb diet but, if people are needing more carbs because the "primal" diet isnt giving them the energy they need then obviously there is a flaw in the theory.

                          Its ilegal to rob a bank but, if you need money, its ok.

                          I am not trying to troll. I am trying to learn.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Kingofturtles View Post
                            My understanding was that carbs were bad. Thats is why he wants you to stop eating so many of them. Turn your body from a carb/sugar burner into a fat burner. If you cut down carbs in order to burn fat, but then you you need to injext more carbs or else your body doesnt function properly as far as working out goes, it seems contradictory. Does it not? I know it isnt a 0 carb diet, it more like a 100 carb diet but, if people are needing more carbs because the "primal" diet isnt giving them the energy they need then obviously there is a flaw in the theory.

                            Its ilegal to rob a bank but, if you need money, its ok.

                            I am not trying to troll. I am trying to learn.
                            have you read the book? i have my quibbles with things mark says, often he has more polished version on the blog, but 'carbs are bad' is just far too simplistic.

                            if you eat 100 grams of carb a day (advocated in both the book & the blog - read them), you're getting 400 calories from carbs. since i burn about 2200-2400 cals a day, i'm still deriving most of my energy from fat. it's not an either/or (fat/carbs).

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by jakey View Post
                              if you eat 100 grams of carb a day (advocated in both the book & the blog - read them), you're getting 400 calories from carbs. since i burn about 2200-2400 cals a day, i'm still deriving most of my energy from fat. it's not an either/or (fat/carbs).
                              This.

                              Not eating chips, bread, rice, candy, etc does not mean that you are not eating carbs. I run about 75g a day personally, as that was my sweet spot for my activity level. I will eat a bit heavier carb load after a hard workout, but unless you are eating a lot more carbs than what Mark recommends, you will be burning fat.

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