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  • Here's why shoulder stuff is gone from PBF.

    There were some questions a while back about the overhead stuff missing from the newer version of PBF. Mark's crew said that it was because of the difficulty of the inverted stuff. I found out firsthand today!

    It was finally time to start step 1 of CC hand stand push-ups which is a head stand. I get my pillow out, position it, psyche myself up, kick over, and promptly crash to the ground with a loud pop and see stars. The way I fell was on my neck with my back crashing against the wall and a loud audible pop; I'm now in a state of pain! My right side upper back and right side under my chest is hurting pretty bad and deep breaths hurt.

    Newbies be careful when starting overhead stuff.

    P.S. any advice on how I should deal with the pain? I don't really think I should see a doctor (unless this pain continues,) but what do y'all think?

  • #2
    ICE ICE & MORE ICE.

    Honestly it's the best first aid for this sort of thing. If it still hurts in the morning go see a doctor.

    I also find alternating ice and heat is nice.
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    • #3
      Might work differently in the US but here in the UK but I wouldn't bother going to a doctor, I'd just pay 40 and get it checked by a decent private physio/chiro.

      Doctor will just throw anti-inflammatories at you and refer you.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by chronyx View Post
        Might work differently in the US but here in the UK but I wouldn't bother going to a doctor, I'd just pay 40 and get it checked by a decent private physio/chiro.

        Doctor will just throw anti-inflammatories at you and refer you.
        i would suggest the same in the US. i only see my doctor when i want a referral
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        • #5
          Originally posted by chronyx View Post
          Might work differently in the US but here in the UK but I wouldn't bother going to a doctor, I'd just pay 40 and get it checked by a decent private physio/chiro.

          Doctor will just throw anti-inflammatories at you and refer you.
          I'll third that.
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          • #6
            Thanks for the help my Primal friends. I'm icing and taking some Aleve. I think I'll be alright; although, I do anticipate some major league soreness and probably a week off from working out.

            Again, please be careful on your first attempt at going upside down; I don't want to see anymore threads like this one!

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            • #7
              Yeah, when you try your first head/handstand it's a good idea to have someone there to spot you and help prevent that kind of thing. I almost broke a rib when I first tried way back when...
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              • #8
                Originally posted by chronyx View Post
                Might work differently in the US but here in the UK but I wouldn't bother going to a doctor, I'd just pay 40 and get it checked by a decent private physio/chiro.

                Doctor will just throw anti-inflammatories at you and refer you.
                Ditto....and BTW the pop part is a bit scary. Sometimes that means a ruptured tendon (did in my case). Hopefully not for you. Hope its a quick and easy recovery. Like said ICE and REST for a few days and move as much as you can without pain. Work to the pain but not through it.

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                • #9
                  I think the decision to put inverted presses in the original program was always a bad idea - especially as it isn't really an OH press at all. I'm guessing it was done to eradicate the need for any additional equipment rather than a reasoned choice.

                  Agree with the advice about seeing a physio/osteo.

                  Best of luck with the progressions when you get back into it.
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                  • #10
                    i've done similar, and haven't tried again since. which is a shame, because i was somewhat close to doing a forearm stand. i fourth the chiro recommendation. doctors are worthless for this sort of thing unless you're seeing a good osteopath.
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                    • #11
                      Okay Okay people, when I said doctors I meant someone qualified enough to confirm if youi need more than rest and that something isn't broken, ripped, or dislocated

                      I'll admit that GPs often arn't much good beyond the A&E and that bone is sticking out stage. But not always, I had a ligment problem in my foot, went to my doctor, he knew exactly what it was, printed me off 5 pages of info and some excersies to do, problem sorted

                      I'm up to feet on windowsill level of overhead press, and I agree it's main benifit is it requires no equipment, esecially when starting off with hands on something like a chair or low bench, that's pretty safe, but once you start getting upside down, it gets a bit weird. Maybe it's time to start scanning freecycle for a barbell, then I can add weights to my squat too
                      You know all those pictures of Adam and Eve where they have belly button? Think about it..................... take as long as you need........................

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                      • #12
                        I'm not a huge fan of head stands at the best of times as there is always a tendency for them to cause some compression in the neck, especially if your alignment is poor,

                        If you want to work with handstands spend some time on the crow stand and crane stand (like a crow stand with straight arms), try to keep the hips high and build the shoulder strength up over time.

                        All inverted work has some danger associated with it so do proceed slowly and avoid training to failure.
                        Last edited by sandstone; 07-08-2012, 07:50 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Go see an orthopedic doctor/surgeon. I hurt my shoulder 8 month's ago. I thought for the first few weeks it would get better. It did a little but I still did not have full range of motion. Long story short, I had a fully torn rotator cuff!! MRI, sonogram confirmed. Had surgery 5 days later. Now 8 month's on, no pain but almost have my full ROM. Doc said it would be a year before it was right again... he was right. Don't take chances and get checked out!!

                          It is the "pop" sound you heard that makes me think hard.

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