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    Some people start tripping as soon as you mention doing any other lifting besides starting strength when you follow the program. Because it will not allow your muscles to recover and you won't grow. But what would actually be so bad about doing pullups/dips right after your workout. Your muscles still get 48/72 hours to recover.

    I ask this because I really enjoy lifting. And if possible I would like to do more than squatting, (bench) pressing and deadlifting. I don't like that I have to wait all the way until sunday to lift again.
    Currently I do 2 sets of pushups until failure right after benching, and when I'm done with the entire workout I do 3 sets of chinups and dips until failure. Any other suggestions?
    well then

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    fuck gadsie, get off the internet already. you overthink your shit WAY TOO MUCH. workout and eat food.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by jakey View Post
      fuck gadsie, get off the internet already. you overthink your shit WAY TOO MUCH. workout and eat food.
      Wait wut? What's wrong with this question?
      well then

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      • #4
        Doesn't sound like you're dying, and I'm assuming you aren't even overtraining. I think you'll be fine. I actually recommend adding more upper body pulling to the SS program anyway.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by EvRevFit View Post
          Doesn't sound like you're dying, and I'm assuming you aren't even overtraining. I think you'll be fine. I actually recommend adding more upper body pulling to the SS program anyway.
          So what can I add? Maybe on rest days if possible? It's summer break so I'll be wanting to go to the gym a lot
          well then

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          • #6
            Sounds fine. Go for it. Actually the less weight your lifting (i.e. if your still a bit weak) and the younger you are the less rest you need.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Gadsie View Post
              So what can I add? Maybe on rest days if possible? It's summer break so I'll be wanting to go to the gym a lot
              Well, here's my issue with SS: Rip doesn't really give hardly any importance to upper body pulls. He includes pull/chin-ups as accessory/optional movements, but too much pressing without at least an equal amount of pulling will eventually lead to shoulder problems. I'd recommend continuing with your chin-ups (maybe adding some weighted ones occasionally) and also adding bent barbell rows to one workout weekly.
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              • #8
                You dudes crack me up with this "not enough pulling" business.
                I've got of one them journal thingies. One Night At McCool's

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by NicMcCool View Post
                  You dudes crack me up with this "not enough pulling" business.
                  We evolved to be pull-dominant and are now in a society of push-dominant. You'd be surprised how many shoulder injuries I've had to help rehab due to just that: too much pressing, not enough pulling. The anterior deltoid will give you issues if the posterior deltoid isn't equally strengthened.
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                  • #10
                    Hey Gadsie, post your question on the SS forums and ask Rippetoe what he thinks about working out on off days. I mean the dude has only refined this program over many many many years and has taken many skinny ass kids and turned them into powerhouses, but hey, WTF does he know. Just DTFP....

                    Or by all means do whatever you want because you know best. What could be wrong with doing this or that.. well, what could be wrong with following a proven method. Trust me, you aren't making the program/progress any better with additions (at this point).
                    Last edited by Fernaldo; 06-22-2012, 02:37 PM.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by EvRevFit View Post
                      We evolved to be pull-dominant and are now in a society of push-dominant. You'd be surprised how many shoulder injuries I've had to help rehab due to just that: too much pressing, not enough pulling. The anterior deltoid will give you issues if the posterior deltoid isn't equally strengthened.
                      Nah, that wasn't the point dude. I meant it cracks me up that you all think you need more than deadlifts to adequately hit the back.

                      Deadlifts and (weighted) pullups that's all anyone needs.
                      I've got of one them journal thingies. One Night At McCool's

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by NicMcCool View Post
                        Nah, that wasn't the point dude. I meant it cracks me up that you all think you need more than deadlifts to adequately hit the back.

                        Deadlifts and (weighted) pullups that's all anyone needs.
                        Meh, we could argue all day on semantics. My corrective exercise background sometimes makes me a little too overzealous on the push/pull thing. I do concede, though. Deadlifts and weighted pull-ups would keep it more or less in balance.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by NicMcCool View Post
                          Nah, that wasn't the point dude. I meant it cracks me up that you all think you need more than deadlifts to adequately hit the back.

                          Deadlifts and (weighted) pullups that's all anyone needs.
                          Well, I guess that depends on the context. It's obviously going to varying depending on goals.

                          I normally encorporate deads, pendlay rows, weighted chins and hyper extenions. I do love working the back but I have had to curtail the amount of time I spend lifting. And for average joe blow (me), doing a lot of isolation work is pretty pointless.
                          Last edited by Fernaldo; 06-22-2012, 03:08 PM.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by EvRevFit View Post
                            Meh, we could argue all day on semantics. My corrective exercise background sometimes makes me a little too overzealous on the push/pull thing. I do concede, though. Deadlifts and weighted pull-ups would keep it more or less in balance.
                            Totes get where you're coming from, I didn't mean to come off rude. I just meant that for a normal beginner looking for strength gains whilst keeping everything proportional they don't need to venture outside of deads and pullups. Isolation exercises would just exacerbate any muscle fatigue.
                            I've got of one them journal thingies. One Night At McCool's

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by NicMcCool View Post
                              Totes get where you're coming from, I didn't mean to come off rude. I just meant that for a normal beginner looking for strength gains whilst keeping everything proportional they don't need to venture outside of deads and pullups. Isolation exercises would just exacerbate any muscle fatigue.
                              Yeah, isolation exercise is definitely not recommended. I go more by StrongLifts and Brooks Kubik's recommendations than Rippetoe's.

                              Anyway, it really depends on the individual and what they find works best for them. We're just here to provide suggestions and options, not dogmatic methods.
                              Josh Vernier, CPT

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