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  • What do you think of my fiance's workout?

    My girlfriend is on Pinterest, and every month there are workouts like this on there. This one is called "Mean Abs June," and I'm doing it with her in addition to normal Grok stuff. What are everyone's thoughts on this daily workout?

    mean abs june.jpg

  • #2
    Skip it and just do push ups pull ups and plank. Crunches are a complete waste of time, situps are too.
    "Go For Broke"
    Fat Kine-230/24% @ 6'2"
    Small Kine-168/9%
    Now- 200/8%
    Goal- 210/6%

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    • #3
      You know what really gets you smokin abs? 500 pound squats. The only crunch I want to see comes in a box and has a sailor on the front.

      Ok, I actually don't eat that but you get the idea...
      "The problem with quoting someone on the Internet is, you never know if it's legit" - Abraham Lincoln

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      • #4
        Yup, although I do like hanging leg raises now and then too.

        I'll put some numbers on this, I squat 2-3 a week, deadlift 1-2 a week, pullups 2-3 times a week, planks and side planks 2-3 a week. Know how often I do situps or crunchs? Never.

        As part of the Army physical test you have to do situps, I can do 100 in 2 minutes without issue. And never do I train with crunch's or situps. Not trying to show off, just showing how lame those exercises are!
        "Go For Broke"
        Fat Kine-230/24% @ 6'2"
        Small Kine-168/9%
        Now- 200/8%
        Goal- 210/6%

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        • #5
          I believe the best thinking on core/abdominal training comes from Dr. Stuart McGill. Hand in hand with that, Lou Schuler and Alwyn Cosgrove's recent book NEW RULES OF LIFTING FOR ABS takes Dr. McGill's work and puts it into a good collection of training practices. Although I don't follow the rest of the NRLFA workout, I do follow the work for my core. My core and abs are as strong as they have EVER been, and all I've done are plank progressions and anti-rotation holds for about a year (and, recently, added Dr. McGill's "stir the pot" which is great - google it).

          Seeing your abs - a six pack - is primarily a function of body fat and, ergo, diet. I have the best looking core I've ever had, and haven't done a crunch.
          “If you want to build a ship, don't drum up people together to collect wood and don't assign them tasks and work, but rather teach them to long for the endless immensity of the sea” -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Wanderlust View Post
            Skip it and just do push ups pull ups and plank. Crunches are a complete waste of time, situps are too.
            LOL, crunches and situps are difficult, cause a "burn", and require exertion.
            Sure, they may not be optimal, but it's ridiculous to call them a waste of time (And less than push ups pull ups and plank)

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Wanderlust View Post
              Skip it and just do push ups pull ups and plank. Crunches are a complete waste of time, situps are too.
              Agreed. The fitness industry enjoys telling people that isolated toning is possible. It is not. The way a body "tones" is by a combination of building muscle mass, and burning fat. THat fat burning is a MUCH bigger part of it and can not be directed to a specific spot on the body. You lose fat across the whole body, not in a focused part like crunch-pushers claim.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by OnlyBodyWeight View Post
                LOL, crunches and situps are difficult, cause a "burn", and require exertion.
                Sure, they may not be optimal, but it's ridiculous to call them a waste of time (And less than push ups pull ups and plank)
                Well they are not a complete waste of time, but they are far more inefficient than planks to build core strength. I'd argue planks are not the best method either, but I'm a YAYOG fan. ::shrug::

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Fernaldo View Post
                  You know what really gets you smokin abs? 500 pound squats. The only crunch I want to see comes in a box and has a sailor on the front.

                  Ok, I actually don't eat that but you get the idea...
                  This.
                  I've got of one them journal thingies. One Night At McCool's

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                  • #10
                    Nothing gets you "abs" except a low body fat percentage. ie: Genetics and nutrition (and dehydration)
                    I am simply talking about the efficacy of using situps, crunches, plank to build core strength.
                    If anything, doing these motions will make your stomach LARGER, as muscle grows bigger when exercised.
                    Everyone knows that doing "abs" makes your waist size increase, not decrease.
                    However, that is the by-product of being fit.

                    With that said, do you still find situps & crunches a "waste of time"?
                    Again, doing ANY abs routine under the delusion of getting a 6-pack is just that: Ignorance!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by OnlyBodyWeight View Post
                      LOL, crunches and situps are difficult, cause a "burn", and require exertion.
                      Sure, they may not be optimal, but it's ridiculous to call them a waste of time (And less than push ups pull ups and plank)
                      I've been doing situps for years for the Army. I pretty much quit doing them, and have a stronger core than ever. Pullups, planks, and lifting heavy have done what situps cannot: train more than just the pretty muscles in the front. My pushups are increasing as well, from the added strength I'm building in my back.

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                      • #12
                        I think there are two important points that are being missed here:

                        1) The problem with crunches isn't that they are inefficient, or don't work (on your rectus abdominus and obliques, primarily), or can't, along with lowering your body fat, give you visible abs. The problem with crunches is that they put -- again, according to Dr. Stuart McGill -- unbelievable pressure on your discs. His studies have lead him to believe that it's not a question of *if* you will damage or even rupture a disc doing crunches; it's simply a question of *when*. The reason to advise against doing crunches is that they will likely lead to injury. (I encourage you to google Dr. McGill to read more about his research, positions, etc.)

                        2) The *core* and the *abs* are simply not interchangeable ideas, and while crunches do indeed work your abs, they do not work a good portion of your core. As Schuler and Cosgrove discuss in NROL for Abs, the core includes a number of muscles in your back, around your torso, leading up your spine, and down into your pelvis. The purpose of this musculature is to lend support and stability to the spine, NOT to flex you forward. To work the core is to work that entire musculature towards the purpose of stability, and this is why planks and related exercises are good for developing abs AND the remainder of your core as well. This is also why the above poster who mentioned heavy squatting is correct; doing loaded work like that where you are struggling to keep your spine neutral and stable is a very good core workout.

                        So, yes, I would say that with diet and crunches, you can build visible and even strong abdominal muscles. By avoiding crunches and doing stability work for your entire core, you can build not only visible abdominal muscles, but a stable mid-section that will better resist injury. And, regardless, you need to be lean to see those abs.
                        “If you want to build a ship, don't drum up people together to collect wood and don't assign them tasks and work, but rather teach them to long for the endless immensity of the sea” -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                        • #13
                          This reminds me of the jogging debate.

                          Yes, jogging is GUARANTEED to destroy your knees/ACL.
                          But, the common rebuttal (from addicted joggers) is that if you do it in moderation (1-3 miles once a week) you should be safe.

                          Likewise, if you do 100's of crunches, I can accept you will damage your spine.
                          But, doing 10 crunches here or there is probably just fine.

                          RELATED:
                          Addicted joggers, bullshit Vibrams, and anti-running rant....

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                          • #14
                            So, rosencrantz and guildenstern, what are your top 3 favorite CORE exercises?
                            I can assume crunches is not one of them

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                            • #15
                              I think it's cool if she wants to do it.

                              I just do the yoga moves that require a lot of abs. does the trick (and part of what I already do anyway).

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