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    Heya,

    I live in Montreal, I am very pale (red brown hair, blue eyes and dead fish white skin.) I burn very fast or at least I always have. I wear a Tilley hat, long sleeves and avoid the sun all the time. It hurts my eyes and it hurts on my skin as soon as I am in it.

    I have always avoided the sun and now I hear that we need it, PB lifestyle demands it and folks seem to be suggesting that it is now not an issue for them? Hunh wha?

    Can someone explain the thinking, and how it is supposed to work? I would love to end my life as a cave troll and be able to actually enjoy the sun but I dont quite know what questions to ask.
    Primal since April 2012 Male 6' 3" SW 345lbs CW 240lbs GW 220lbs and when I get there I am getting a utlikilt. This one http://www.utilikilts.com/company/pr...ilts/workmans/ actually.

    Join me at www.paleoplanet.net, where all the cavemen hang out.

  • #2
    Well, I live in Northern Washington now and the sun here is nothing. In Idaho, I ate SAD and burned all summer long. Here, I ate SAD and barely got peels. Now that I eat this way, I cannot burn at all, even if I push the limits! I just turn brown. But I have not tried a day in Idaho, so I don't know how protective the lack of grains really is yet. But I also feel the sun right away and it does bother my blue eyes. So I wear shades if I'm out for a long time, and the warmth has yet to become a burning. I'm pretty sure mileage varies widely on this topic. Are you a red head?
    Crohn's, doing SCD

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    • #3
      I am a red brown blond head. No one color. But very pale.
      Primal since April 2012 Male 6' 3" SW 345lbs CW 240lbs GW 220lbs and when I get there I am getting a utlikilt. This one http://www.utilikilts.com/company/pr...ilts/workmans/ actually.

      Join me at www.paleoplanet.net, where all the cavemen hang out.

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      • #4
        Gradually increase your exposure - maybe 15-20 minutes a day for a few days, then 30 minutes for a few days, and so on and so forth. Allow your skin to adapt.
        "Don't waste your time, or time will waste you."

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        • #5
          I'll just point out here that the best way to get sun exposure is when it's cloudy. You'll get less intense sunlight, but it'll come at you from all directions which is a win whichever way you look at it.

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          • #6
            If you can find a copy of "Protein Power Life Plan" at the library, the Doctors Eades provide a short section with a suggested sun exposure regimen based on skin type and with adjustments for different latitudes.
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            • #7
              yes I can understand how to increase my exposure but how does a PB lifestyle improve my resistance to sun damage?
              Primal since April 2012 Male 6' 3" SW 345lbs CW 240lbs GW 220lbs and when I get there I am getting a utlikilt. This one http://www.utilikilts.com/company/pr...ilts/workmans/ actually.

              Join me at www.paleoplanet.net, where all the cavemen hang out.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Kinnell View Post
                I'll just point out here that the best way to get sun exposure is when it's cloudy. You'll get less intense sunlight, but it'll come at you from all directions which is a win whichever way you look at it.
                Even cloudy days can cause sunburns. with fair skin, you'll still want to follow the slow exposure plan regardless of how much sun is "out".

                Sun exposure produces Vitamin D in your skin which helps with the absorption of certain elements found in food - like calcium. It also helps with mood enhancement. I know a lot of people (myself included) who take Vitamin D supplements to reduce depression (I supplement because I work in an office with north facing windows, so I get no sunlight unless I go outside). I think it has something to do with helping in the production of serotonin.
                Primal since March 5, 2012
                SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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                • #9
                  I am a former redhead(it darkened to brown) and I am married to a redhead with a strawberry redheaded son. I completely understand on being a cave troll. The theory on how paleo helps is that getting vitamin D levels high enough helps stop the burn and having high vitamin A levels(from all those vegies and liver) actually tint the skin and form a physical block to being burned. I am still pretty new to paleo and not that strict yet. So far my family and myself still wear hats and sunscreen and hide from the sun during peak hours. I got crispy last weekend going fishing. The only thing that tans on me is my freckles and my son is a paper white redhead who at five years old apparently doesn't tan at all. I live in NW Washington where the sun isn't that intense.

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                  • #10
                    I used to avoid the sun like the plague. I hated it and it hated me...or so I thought. Within minutes of walking outside, my flesh felt like it was on fire. I could burn so fast. I used the thickest, highest rated sunscreen I could find AND cover up as much as possible,....and still wind up with pink skin. I have auburn hair and PALE skin.
                    Once I got going primal-wise, I was stunned to notice one day that I was sitting in my car with the sun directly on my face and arms for some time without realizing it. I couldn't believe it.
                    It now takes nearly half an hour in the sun with no sunscreen on for me to even pink up. That is amazing to me. I can only believe that it is how I have been eating that has made the difference. I haven't changed anything else. Once you ditch all the non-primal stuff, try going outside late in the morning for starters. Stay out on a nice day for twenty minutes or so and then check you skin. Do this at different times of the day, keeping an eye out for any pink areas. I think you will find this less and less of an issue.
                    I can tell you that my skin has more color in it overall..I am not nearly as pure white as I was....which for me is great. I don't use sunscreen just to get in the car anymore. I can drive to the coast (about 2 hours away) and not arrive there with a sunburned face and arms. I can take walks on a nice day and not feel that hot, burning sensation.
                    It has made a huge difference in my life.

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                    • #11
                      lowering your body inflammation and raising your vit D3 levels = tan and no more burn

                      this is my n=1
                      beautiful
                      yeah you are

                      Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
                      lol

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Warmbear View Post
                        Heya,

                        I live in Montreal, I am very pale (red brown hair, blue eyes and dead fish white skin.) I burn very fast or at least I always have. I wear a Tilley hat, long sleeves and avoid the sun all the time. It hurts my eyes and it hurts on my skin as soon as I am in it.

                        I have always avoided the sun and now I hear that we need it, PB lifestyle demands it and folks seem to be suggesting that it is now not an issue for them? Hunh wha?

                        Can someone explain the thinking, and how it is supposed to work? I would love to end my life as a cave troll and be able to actually enjoy the sun but I dont quite know what questions to ask.
                        Go walk around outside with as much skin exposed as possible when your shadow is shortest. 20 minutes should be enough. Less if you burn easily.

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                        • #13
                          Sometimes I wonder if some folks read the post completely before responding. I know how to acclimate myself to the sun, I was asking why PB lifestyle makes a difference. Thanks to those that actually responded to what I asked.
                          Primal since April 2012 Male 6' 3" SW 345lbs CW 240lbs GW 220lbs and when I get there I am getting a utlikilt. This one http://www.utilikilts.com/company/pr...ilts/workmans/ actually.

                          Join me at www.paleoplanet.net, where all the cavemen hang out.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Warmbear View Post
                            Sometimes I wonder if some folks read the post completely before responding. I know how to acclimate myself to the sun, I was asking why PB lifestyle makes a difference. Thanks to those that actually responded to what I asked.
                            I asked a few weeks back and faced similar responses...

                            I guss nobody around here seems to know the science behind it? But hell, I just can't seem to burn anymore - that's what I know.

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                            • #15
                              I used to get burned and dislike direct sunlight, but since the dietary changes I can't get enough. I am sure I tan more easily now too. I think it is to do with dietary cholesterol. I started a thread a few weeks ago on the same thing. I think a lot of people are noticing a big change if they took up this eating in the winter and now the Spring sun is on them.

                              Previous thread: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread54637.html

                              I am guessing the OP will both need and enjoy more sun now than before.

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