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  • Anyone Else Have Too Long Legs For Doing Squats?

    Hi Guys,

    Wondering if anyone out there is like me... their legs are too long to get the best out of squats?

    I find I never gained alot of strength with squatting. I have found it much effecient for me to be doing legs via leg press machines.

    How have you guys accomodated for squats not able to give you the strength and size? ..what exercises did you replace them with?

    cheers

    oz

  • #2
    uhm.... I'm going to have to first ask you two questions.

    1) How tall are you?

    2) What is your inseam?
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    • #3
      Originally posted by ozbuckley View Post
      Wondering if anyone out there is like me... their legs are too long to get the best out of squats?
      I could be mistaken, but wouldn't the physics of the fulcrum mean that it would take more force to do squats with longer legs? Shouldn't that translate into greater strength gains with lower weight? Is it really a balance issue?

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      • #4
        For the love of god don't do leg presses. Squats are not just a leg exercise, they are a full body exercise. They will work your back, your arms, everything, if you do them right. Don't do any machines for your core workout (any at all really). You will leave out all of the stabilizer muscles which will come in handy when you might try to apply your strength outside of the gym. Without strong stabilizer muscles, you are inviting injury as you could easily overload them while not coming close to overloading your main muscles that get all the work in the machine lifts. As far as replacing a squat, can't happen. Squats are probably the best lift you can do for overall strength. Just suck it up, beat your ego down, and do some squats.

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        • #5
          I'm tall and have long legs, and the squat is my best lift and my favorite lift.

          I've heard that my body type isn't ideal for squats, that a shorter, stockier frame is better suited, but that never stopped me from squatting.

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          • #6
            I have a 36 inch inseam.

            I still do squats.

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            • #7
              There are 6'6" men at my gym who do deep, heavy barbell squats well below parallel. I doubt your legs are too long.

              You probably think you're getting stronger on the machine because you can push more weight there than you can lift on a barbell, but trust me, barbell squats are going to make you actually stronger than machine presses by far. The increased weight moved is because of the mechanical advantage of the machine.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by JHen View Post
                ...Just suck it up, beat your ego down, and do some squats.
                This. Do moar squatz.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ozbuckley
                  ... their legs are too long to get the best out of squats?
                  I actually "LOL'd".

                  Originally posted by ozbuckley
                  I have found it much efficient for me to be doing legs via leg press machines.
                  I "LOL'd" again. Reminds me of folks who like decline bench presses.

                  Originally posted by ozbuckley
                  How have you guys accomodated for squats not able to give you the strength and size? ..what exercises did you replace them with?
                  There is no replacement, learn how to squat properly.
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                  • #10
                    I have a 34-36 inch inseam. I was pretty awkward at first, but with some patience and fine coaching I have excellent technique now and I feel good under a heavy load. A huge turning point for me was switching to the low bar back squat. Much more comfortable.

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                    • #11
                      I'm 6'6", and my inseam is close to 38 inches depending on how you measure. Particularly for pushing lifts, I have trouble putting up the same kind of numbers as others at my bodyweight - it really comes down to simple physics. At the same weight, I have do to do more work to lift weight than someone who's shorter-limbed, due to a longer range of motion. And to add in, a taller individual may very well have a bit more non-muscular lean mass(bones, organs, etc) and consequentally slightly less muscle mass than a shorter individual at the same weight. It's just the way things are.

                      Basically, when looking at my abilities:
                      -I'm a better deadlifter than a squatter
                      -I'm better at chin-ups, rows, etc. than bench press and similar lifts
                      -Even at the pulling lifts, I'm still at some disadvantage due to the extended range of motion

                      Is it sometimes a little discouraging that my bench/squat numbers lag a bit? Sure. Unfortunately numbers tend to be measured relative to body weight but not relative to height, which really isn't fair to us tall guys. But ultimately, I'm not lifting competitively, so I'm really only competing against my former self - it's about continuous progress, not some number to post on a board. Even if our body type doesn't lend itself to posting big numbers, there's still plenty of good reasons to strength train.

                      And besides, while being tall may not lend itself to huge numbers on the squat/bench press, it's pretty handy in other sports.
                      Last edited by jsa23; 03-04-2012, 06:12 AM.

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                      • #12
                        You will probably be more advantaged for dead lifts... but that's won't hurt your squat. Most likely you actually have a well developed anterior and will do well with front squats, but are deficient in your posterior. Squat more! It will suck at first, it gets easier as your stabilizers and mobility improve.
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                        • #13
                          I'm 5'9 and love me some back squat AND deadlifts. Ive seen more mass increase and fat loss with these two movements than any other I have tried.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by TheFastCat View Post
                            You will probably be more advantaged for dead lifts...
                            That depends on how long/short his arms are. I have long legs and long arms, deadlifts are not my friends.
                            Originally posted by BuffaloGrok View Post
                            I'm 5'9
                            really? unless your height is double my inseam you shouldn't be posting in a thread about long legged lifting issues. If you disagree I will have no choice but to challenge you to an Indian Leg Wrestle.
                            Last edited by federkeil; 03-05-2012, 03:28 PM.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ozbuckley View Post
                              I find I never gained alot of strength with squatting. I have found it much effecient for me to be doing legs via leg press machines.
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