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  • What happened to the overhead press in PBF?

    I KNOW it was there. I wouldn't have been doing this every LHT workout since March if it weren't. I know I didn't just pull it out of my rump.

    So, I was ready to progress in this exercise, thought I'd consult Mark's online book to make sure I was doing things properly, and it's not there? Does anyone know what's going on?
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    It's a great exercise.. Do it anyway..

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    • #3
      Progression:
      Elevated Jack Knife Press (25M/20F)
      Jack Knife Press (20M/15F)
      Dive Bomber (15M/10F)
      Shoulder Press Pushup (12M/7F)
      Handstand (90 sec M&F)
      Half Handstand Pushup (12M/7F)
      Full Handstand Pushup (10M/5F)
      Uneven Handstand Pushup (5 ea. side M/3 ea. side F)
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      • #4
        Two possibilities: It was an oversight and left off by mistake or it was deleted because it is really tough on the shoulders. I do them, but its one exercise I never go heavy on. The older I get, the more careful of my shoulders I get...

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        • #5
          I just attempted checking out one of the OP videos to make sure my form was correct. Apparently the videos are set to 'private' on youtube now. Odd. I'd like to know what the deal is with this. (shrug)

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          • #6
            Definitely tough on the shoulders. I annoyed my rotator cuff a while back by doing both the PBF progression and heavy military presses as part of my weekly routine. My suspicion is with Jersey's...
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            • #7
              @BarbieGirl - Here is a good video on proper execution of the press. In case your form may be causing some shoulder issues...

              Rip on Press

              Rip on Press 2
              Last edited by Fernaldo; 02-14-2012, 09:07 AM.
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              • #8
                Here's an article with a video tutorial that I did about handstand push-ups and progressions. Hope it helps!
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                • #9
                  Thanks for all the replies. While they're not easy, I certainly like them. Okay, I don't necessarily like them, but I like what they do for me. Thanks for giving me the progression, mightstone2k. And thanks for the video tutorial, Al_K.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by BarbeyGirl View Post
                    Definitely tough on the shoulders. I annoyed my rotator cuff a while back by doing both the PBF progression and heavy military presses as part of my weekly routine. My suspicion is with Jersey's...
                    how "heavy" were you doing them? what rep range? unless you're training for some sort of competition, i would avoid any and all low-rep shoulder presses.

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                    • #11
                      @Fernaldo -- thanks for the videos. I'm a Rippetoe fan and am pretty confident in my form -- think I just increased too much, too soon.

                      @not on the rug (love it!) -- About 65% bodyweight, low rep, or 50% bodyweight 5x5. These days, I stick to the 5x5 version (increasing slooooooly) and avoid those dive bombers, and I do fine.
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                      • #12
                        nice. i love the big lebowski. it's my all-time favorite comedy movie

                        personally, i tend to not drop below 8 reps for shoulder presses. that's just me. i had severe tendonitis in both of my shoulders from heavy overhead presses. both times took me over 6 months to recover from and i couldn't even lift my arm straight up or straight out. it was awful. not i stick to the 8-10 rep range, and do things like handstand pushups to change things up

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                        • #13
                          Warming up your shoulders properly will prevent injury. I have a bad right shoulder, but with proper shoulder stretching and rotator cuff strengthening exercise I can perform this exercise without injury.

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                          • #14
                            I noticed it was set to private too. I'm just starting and so I need the most basic step and i don't have access to a gym to use a bar. All the other exercises are there, just this one is set to private.

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                            • #15
                              I sent an email (to Mark) because the PBF went from 5 to 4 essential movements. (There is a new version of the book) I wanted to see whether it was people getting hurt, or if it was deemed redundant. If people were over working too hard and getting hurt, then, I'll take my chances, and try to do it right. But if it was deemed redundant I would love to hear why.
                              Last edited by beans mcgrady; 03-05-2012, 10:09 PM.

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