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    Been looking into intermittent fasting. Thinking it would be cheaper and easier to manage (plus all those other good side effects). Anyways, is the recommended 10 grams of BCAA totally required for preworkout (end of fast workout)? Or could i just jump in completely fasted?

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    I take it you have been reading leangains? IMO the 10g BCAA is just a recommendation.

    I dont bother with it, and train totally fasted. dont worry, martin berkham has talked enough about the impossibility of losing muscle from fasting in the shorterm. those 10g BCAA are not going to make a difference unless you are an elite builder. If you are concerned, sip a tiny bit of whey protein.
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      Thanks man. Assume you've been doing leangains? how are the results? does it couple well with paleo?

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      • #4
        Also they say on the site that those who follow the 16/8 and eat 3 meals should have 95-99% of their calories post workout (first meal). for those trying to gain some muscle and typically eating in the 3000 calorie range...how's that even possible? haha

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        • #5
          should have 95-99% of their calories post workout (first meal).
          You're not going to have 90%+ of your overall caloric intake from a single meal. That amount would be from ALL post workout meals for the day. It means only 1-5% of energy would be consumed PRE workout.

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          • #6
            ooooh well thanks for clearing that up!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by galensjp01 View Post
              Thanks man. Assume you've been doing leangains? how are the results? does it couple well with paleo?
              Yeah Ive been following the general fasting principles, but eating primal. My insulin sensitivity is high, so a high carb day is a couple of potatoes post workout lol havent mad mad on it, going for a longterm approach, I feel its healthier. I have seen strength gains, but 80% of my training atm is kickboxing, not not strength oreintated, will probs go back to strength training in a few months.
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              • #8
                The BCAA's pre-workout are to prevent any sort of muscle cannibalism during your lift, which is possible when doing a LHT workout as your body is looking for proteins to synthesize.

                I still wouldn't worry about it unless every little bit counts
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                • #9
                  I take the BCAAs before, mainly because I can't exactly follow any of the protocols. I work nights, so working out 1-1 1/2 hrs after I wake up is the most convenient for me to still have a life. My workout is at the end of my fast, so thats why I make sure I take something(I friggin stuff myself afterwards). I actually feel pretty damn energized though. And Im doing starting strength.
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                  • #10
                    I fast from 6pm-12pm daily. I workout completely fasted around 9am, then eat lunch. I usually do some more body weight stuff in the afternoon, eat dinner at 5:30pm, and walk a mile or two in the evening. Works great, I have great energy, still making gains in working out. I doubt I will ever be considered a body-builder, but I think I'm doing pretty good. Sometimes I'll have a whey protein shake at dinner if I didn't hit my protein goal for the day.

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                    • #11
                      I just started following the Leangains approach in January, and also simultaneously changed my lifting program as well. I have been following the reverse pyramid training program, and increasing my lifts each time. I will typically fast from 9pm-1pm, and will work out around 5pm. I will eat one meal pre-workout at 1pm. I will then eat twice after the training session. On weekends I will train completely fasted around 12pm, and then eat soon after. Since starting this program my strength has continued to increase and I have dropped 7 pounds in the first 6 weeks. I really like this approach for many reasons, but most importantly I am seing visible changes in my body composition, with my training being focused on compound lifts. I haven't tried BCAA's at all at this point.

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                      • #12
                        Been following leangains for about 6 months. The real value in IF is breaking the psychological bond to food, which kinda relates to Marks latest post about cravings.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by FitMountain View Post
                          The real value in IF is breaking the psychological bond to food, which kinda relates to Marks latest post about cravings.
                          I'll agree to this.

                          I like not having to eat as soon as I get up, and if stuff happens I'm not starving even if I don't eat till 6pm.
                          I didn't like the rules you gave me, so I made some of my own.

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