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    Hey guys, it's been a while. Been busy with school and training so I haven't been online much.


    As most of you may know, I've practice IF everyday for the past 2 months. It was great: gained weight, gained strength, felt amazing.


    But these days it seems to be taxing my body too much. I don't have too much energy at the gym anymore, because I'm no longer squatting 150 lbs, but 200 (1.25 x BW).


    Also, I'm not gaining weight anymore. It's really hard to eat 4,000 calories during the 4 hour window. 3,000 cals was doable, but now it's crazy.


    What do you suggest? Is it normal to reach a point where we have to say, okay, this is too much for me to handle? I mean, Grok was active while on an empty stomach, but he wasn't carrying a 200 lbs beast on his shoulders!


    So my question to all of you guys that lift while IF... have you reached that point?

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    I have no problems keeping it up.


    Are you over training? As the weight goes up, you need more recover time.

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      Still only 3 times a week at 1 hour per session. This Saturday I went to the gym after a small breakfast and then lunch, and had a pretty kick ass work out. That&#39;s making me reconsider.


      How heavy are you lifting and at what body weight?

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        I used to life fasted about a year or so ago but stopped after a little bit, however I am planning on starting up again with it tomorrow morning. Any tips?

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          I&#39;m with Tarlach. Your description certainly sounds like overtraining. You&#39;re lifting heavier and therefore need more recovery time. (No, you shouldn&#39;t be able to do the same number of workouts at heavier weight just because you&#39;re getting stronger -- I made that mistake, too.)


          Try cutting back to 2 heavy workouts per week for a while and see how you feel. If you&#39;re like me, you&#39;ll need to replace that workout with something else (metcon or light gymnastics) in order to tolerate the rest, mentally.

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            I&#39;m about 180lb and I&#39;m almost at 2x deadlifts after first doing them 3 months ago.


            I only lift once every 3 days. I found two days was not enough recovery time.

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            Grains (wheat/rice/oats etc) . . . . . Dairy (milk/yogurt/butter/cheese etc) . . . . . Nightshades (peppers/tomato/eggplant etc)
            Tubers (potato/arrowroot etc) . . . Modernly palatable (cashews/olives etc) . . . Refined foods (salt/sugars etc )
            Legumes (soy/beans/peas etc)

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            • #7
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              A week, of everyday body weight exercises, some cardio and a heavy lift, two at most.


              After that everything just suffers for me, including fat loss, mood etc.


              I need that one day two-meal carb-up, little evolutionary quirk I guess...or habituation?

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                maybe school is taxing you a little too. all that brain power uses up energy too!

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                  been working out fasted for ...oh i dont know exactly... but something around 7 years. and i gain in progressive strength all the time. the musclehypertrophy has slowed ofcourse but strenghgains havent. so yes, id say its about getting enough rest - strength is about nerves also and they need a longer time to recover than muscles.

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                    I&#39;d say you are overtraining. Take a week off and see how you feel.


                    Exercise is like medication. An overdose can be worse than not enough exercise.

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                      You could try reducing your fasting to 4-5 days a week instead of 7. This way you could still workout fasted, but you would be able to get more calories and recover better on non-workout days.

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                        In terms of absolute strength (not pound for pound) I&#39;m probably the strongest guy on the board. And I&#39;m not being cocky, it just seems to be true from the numbers I&#39;ve seen posted. I&#39;d compete in the super heavy weight division and I total somewhere between 1800 and 1900 LBS between my 3 lifts. I&#39;ve never touched steroids, I don&#39;t take supplements, and I don&#39;t use any type of equipment while lifting (belt, gloves, straps, wraps, suits, etc.).


                        Keep in mind, that&#39;s "gym strength," I&#39;m TERRIBLE when it comes to manipulating my own body weight in the Primal fashion.


                        Anyways, I won&#39;t lift while I&#39;m fasting. I feel like total shit in the gym on those days. Honestly, Paleo (@ <25g carbohydrate/day) has definitely had a negative effect on my performance in the gym as a whole.

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