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  • Working out with a pro now....is it too much?

    Background:

    Lost 45lbs. working out with KB's twice a week with some tire flipping or sprinting and bike riding 2hrs a week

    Issue:

    Joined a Gym, I know very un grock like...but this place is a dream. I have a friend though that has was a strength coach with Tennessee and his internship was with the freaking Bengals! We have worked out many times but at his place or mine so limited options and it was always fun and draining. He came to the gym and joined and now we are workout partners!!!

    Now my workouts are at an Hr. three times a week....very hard core...like think football program style. There is much science to what we are doing and I trust him with what we are doing and that is getting freaking strong as bulls.

    I am VLC like under 50g a day low. Should I start carb loading?

  • #2
    sounds cool. i wish i had a workout partner especially someone that would push me like im sure your friend does

    as for carbs im sure youll get a million different answers but personally id keep it where its at and add if you think its necessary after giving it some time.

    theres been a few threads on that subject lately maybe they can give you some more advice
    Primal Chaos
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    6-19-2011 393lbs 60" waist
    current 338lbs 49" waist
    goal 240lbs 35" waist

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    • #3
      Personally I would had carbs on the heavy days, but you may not need to. One week you could try staying VLC, and the next week adding 100g after a workout and see which makes you feel better, you could even re test this every few months.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Blah View Post
        Personally I would had carbs on the heavy days, but you may not need to. One week you could try staying VLC, and the next week adding 100g after a workout and see which makes you feel better, you could even re test this every few months.
        +1 go with how you feel. your body will tell you loud and clear what your needs are (more calories, more carbs or more rest)
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        • #5
          Thanks for the tips!

          I agree I will stay VLC for the present...I have increased my fat intake a little for some more calories

          Will see how that goes for a couple of workouts and if I am dragging like I did when I started (took three weeks for me to switch energy systems) I will start to carb up and experiment.

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          • #6
            make sure you are getting enough protein as well
            Primal Chaos
            37yo 6'5"
            6-19-2011 393lbs 60" waist
            current 338lbs 49" waist
            goal 240lbs 35" waist

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            • #7
              I've also also just started working out regularly with a buddy and I've been trying to just up my calorie intake without upping my carbs. It's been difficult because I was never really one to eat breakfast, and I often skipped lunch, but since starting a consistent workout routine I've been concerned with having an equally consistent food plan. So I've been making a point to have breakfast and lunch, more food in general, just to be on the safe side.

              Whatever you try, if it works for you, please let us know what you did!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Darwin17 View Post
                I have a friend though that has was a strength coach with Tennessee and his internship was with the freaking Bengals! We have worked out many times but at his place or mine so limited options and it was always fun and draining. He came to the gym and joined and now we are workout partners!!!
                As him if he's familiar with the names Dan Riley and John Philbin.

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                The folklore in coaching is just abhorrent. You couldn't do it any more wrong.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by js290 View Post
                  As him if he's familiar with the names Dan Riley and John Philbin.

                  Paleo Diet -- Doug McGuff M.D. Provides Concrete Medical Support [Full] - YouTube
                  You bring up a good point.

                  That this guy was an intern with the Bengals and works with Tennessee is not a great endorsement, it's probably the opposite.

                  You were probably better off doing what you were doing alone with the tire flips and KBs.

                  You're not in the NFL bro, this is pointless, killing yourself with some arrogant young prick.

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                  • #10
                    To each his own, but working out with a former pro strength coach for a a guy your age who doesn't have plans to compete in a strength sport seems overboard. Work with him for a bit to get some ideas. Then move on to a more normal routine. If strength + kettlebells is your thing, look into becoming an RKC. You seem like the kind of guy who would dig that. Those guys at Dragon Door are just CRAZY in love with maximizing personal strength.

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                    • #11
                      Here is the thing everyone.

                      Been working out with KB's hard core for months now...I have 35, 2 53's, 72, and 88. I push cars, flip huge tires, and all the good stuff. Yes what I was doing is a great way to get into some shape but I don't know anything compared to my friend. His knowledge and experience really is way beyond mine when it comes to energy systems and program development.

                      I am goal oriented with what I am trying to do and I just want to be the most optimal I can be. Yes I am stronger than most anyways as I don't know many that can flip a 500+ lbs. tire down a block or snatch an 88lbs. KB over head for reps. The thing is that I was getting a bit one viewed in the workouts and in all honesty I am not nearly as well rounded as I have the capability to be.

                      Yes he is football oriented....but those are the most athletic athletes in the world period. These workouts are killer and I am sore as hell form them.....strange when I think about it but it shows just how the way I was working out was not enough for me.

                      The way the program is set up is incredible and goes into depth on how my energy systems work during my workout and how I will gain optimal strength over a long term approach.

                      All I was asking is the carb question....anyone who comments over his knowledge base really does not have a clue as he has a masters over this and has trained real athletes with real stakes. I know that this isn't "primal" but I have to say that I am picking heavy stuff up and will be way stronger in a couple of months vs. what I was doing.

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                      • #12
                        You weren't asking only the carb question, you asked if it is too much working with a pro in the subject line.

                        Football players are not the most athletic, this is the basketball player.

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                        • #13
                          I literally have no idea what is going on in this thread. A quality coach will adjust to the athlete, not the other way round. If working with this guy is producing results then keep at it.

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                          • #14
                            @darwin: Are you improving? Are you recovering? Are you enjoying it? Are you injury free?

                            If the answer to these are yes, keep at it! Adjust your food as you need it. I find I need more carbs on my heavy lifting days. Not a whole lot more, but more. I stay low carb on the other days.

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