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  • #31
    Does his school not have a weight room? You mentioned home equipment was limited but didn't say anything about the school. Lifting there would help in not only gaining size and strength but would get him noticed more by the coaches, etc. Also as already mentioned, up the protein. I wish my parents had been more involved in my nutrition at that age. Good job.

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    • #32
      my three year old "shoots" up -- they are called growth spurts. and no, he's not in puberty. children grow -- that's normal. puberty will have secondary characteristics, not just growth. dad will know them when he sees them.

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      • #33
        The varsity team running back in my high school was 5'6" and maybe 140 lbs. He won state for us by virtue of the fact he was so fast nobody could catch him. He also broke state records in track for sprints. At thirteen, I'm afraid time is really going to be the only answer. My first husband was 5'5 until he was 18 when he grew 6+ inches in about 4 months and topped 220lbs. He gets asked what position he played in football in school and he answers that he was too small, he played french horn. That raises a few eyebrows. I wouldn't recommend heavy weightlifting that young, too easy to damage growing joints. Feed him well and keep him moving.
        I have two teenaged daughters who are now almost 19 and almost 20. They are very frustrated by the fact that they never grew(short family) and they are 5' 3 1/2" and 5' 3 3/4". They are mad that they are not taller than me( 5' 5").

        Ingvildr

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        • #34
          lifting weights does not damage growing joints unless some sort of catastrophic injury occurs.
          use your google for plenty of information abound on this.
          .. also plenty of people spreading information to the contrary.


          kids incur very high loading forces in normal every day play. far more than what they can handle with a barbell on their back. good form and proper loading can yield great know how for future training. OVER USE of the same movement CAN be detrimental to joints (kids lifting in front of the mirror doing rediculous amounts of loading to get their biceps to grow) but this can occur outside the weight room as well, with every day tasks or hobbies (twisting your body into certain positions to play a muscial instrument for example).

          simply lifting some heavy weights sometimes and lifting weights in general is not going to damage kids.
          to the contrary, it can help protect them during high impact sports like football. many of the demands put on athletes on the field can be lessened if they put in the correct amount of prepatory work off the field. weightlifting can be a part of this plan. you cant walk on to a field of play and expect to have all the qualities you will need in that sport sufficiently developed. extra strengthening work for ankles, knees, hips, spine, neck, shoulders etc WILL help with almost all sports.

          .. kids give each other piggy back rides and jump off of objects nearly as tall as their heads, they run around and fight and wrestle and tumble and do all sorts of crazy stuff. putting a weight (even a moderately heavy one) in some kids hands or across their back, in a controlled, safe, non-chaotic environment, and teaching them how to move under these demanding loads is not dangerous, its smart training.

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          • #35
            Just my .02...but I really think that much milk for a kid could contribute to pro-acne conditions if it's conventional milk. You may get the kiddo on the team, but a whole host of other self-esteem issues could result (This just coming from painful high-school memories!)

            I think if you're advocating a dairy-dense approach, you've simply GOT to find grass-fed, full-fat kefir. The fermentation destroys the IGF-1 and makes digestion and assimilation that much easier. Whole foods has g-f kefir but it's lowfat. Local dairies (find at realmilk.com or eatwild.com) can provide full-fat grass-fed milk and often kefir grains. A little research and initial legwork could save a LOT of hurt. A good guy to look up is Dane at GarageStrength.com. He has lots of success with traditional, fermented foods and high-level athletes of all ages.
            Liz
            Steve's Original
            CaveGirlEats

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            • #36
              Also, if you have limited access to a weight room, look up Hershal Walker's history prior to joining the NFL. All he did was bodyweight workouts, and he was one of the strongest/fastest football players in history.

              Dont underestimate the power of body weight. If you are interested, "Never Gymless" by Ross Enaimait.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by CaveGirlEats View Post
                Just my .02...but I really think that much milk for a kid could contribute to pro-acne conditions if it's conventional milk. You may get the kiddo on the team, but a whole host of other self-esteem issues could result (This just coming from painful high-school memories!)
                In my experience the acne causing effects are due to not enough Retinol(vit A). I was drinking grass fed raw milk for a couple months and started to get horrible acne so I stopped. A couple months later I started taking 10k iu retinol daily and decided to try milk again, to my surprise there was absolutely no acne this time, yet I was drinking pasteurized conventional skim milk. I still do about 1/2 gallon of pasteurized non-homogenized milk daily and my face is the clearest its ever been.

                Just my .02

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by achilles.kealoha View Post
                  Also, if you have limited access to a weight room, look up Hershal Walker's history prior to joining the NFL. All he did was bodyweight workouts, and he was one of the strongest/fastest football players in history.

                  Dont underestimate the power of body weight. If you are interested, "Never Gymless" by Ross Enaimait.
                  Never gymless is fantastic.

                  Hershel Walker not an example anyone can or should follow.
                  Lifting Journal

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Apex Predator View Post
                    Never gymless is fantastic.

                    Hershel Walker not an example anyone can or should follow.
                    Haha, maybe we should recommend the boy studies the intellectual progression of Plaxico Buress, next.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Apex Predator View Post
                      Never gymless is fantastic.

                      Hershel Walker not an example anyone can or should follow.
                      As a total outsider, and just ouf of curiosity, who is Hershel Walker and what did he do wrong that others should not follow? Based on a quick image search he sure looks like a fit guy.

                      Best regards,
                      Dan

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by h4890 View Post
                        As a total outsider, and just ouf of curiosity, who is Hershel Walker and what did he do wrong that others should not follow? Based on a quick image search he sure looks like a fit guy.
                        He is an American athlete with exceptional genetics.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by h4890 View Post
                          As a total outsider, and just ouf of curiosity, who is Hershel Walker and what did he do wrong that others should not follow? Based on a quick image search he sure looks like a fit guy.

                          Best regards,
                          Dan
                          He is a complete genetic freak(in a good way), who was born with an athletic talent so far in excess of anything that 99.9% of the population can achieve that it is staggering. He is widely considered one of the greatest NFL stars ever and also one of the greatest athletes ever. He took up MMA around mid-life and is undefeated. He is still in better shape than 99% of the population as he ages.

                          What's his diet and exercise like?

                          He's a vegetarian who eats one meal a day of bread, soup and salad. He eats almost no protein.

                          He sleeps four hours a night.

                          He does hours and hours of body-weight exercises every day of his life.

                          Some people might think if it produces such great results in someone, shouldn't everyone try it? The answer is no. That diet and sleep, let alone exercise would literally kill most people. It's holding him back- just think what he could be on primal and good training. The rules that apply to us don't apply to him. Why? Who knows, but almost certainly genetics. He's a genetic anomaly.

                          He is also seriously mentally ill.
                          Lifting Journal

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                          • #43
                            Thank you for filling me in js290 and Apex Predator. That truly sounds amazing! I have to read up on him, because those kind of miracles I find very fascinating.

                            Best regards,
                            Dan

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                            • #44
                              My $.02? If he can't play, be thankful. My youngest son has a permanent click in his neck from his high school playing days, my right knee was operated on twice and my pinkie on my left hand was crushed back over the top of my hand. Luckily, I had a very good surgeon. But what were the injuries for? These kids are encouraged to go out and trash their bodies for what reason?

                              To add mass? Put him on a routine of BW squats, dips and one-armed DB rows. When he can do 25 BW squats in perfect form, start adding weight slowly. When he can do 20 dips in good form, add weight. But, keep it to 3 - 4 sets per exercise twice per week, sprints twice per week.

                              But think about encouraging more productive pursuits for mind and body.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Apex Predator View Post
                                He is a complete genetic freak(in a good way), who was born with an athletic talent so far in excess of anything that 99.9% of the population can achieve that it is staggering. He is widely considered one of the greatest NFL stars ever and also one of the greatest athletes ever. He took up MMA around mid-life and is undefeated. He is still in better shape than 99% of the population as he ages.

                                What's his diet and exercise like?

                                He's a vegetarian who eats one meal a day of bread, soup and salad. He eats almost no protein.

                                He sleeps four hours a night.

                                He does hours and hours of body-weight exercises every day of his life.

                                Some people might think if it produces such great results in someone, shouldn't everyone try it? The answer is no. That diet and sleep, let alone exercise would literally kill most people. It's holding him back- just think what he could be on primal and good training. The rules that apply to us don't apply to him. Why? Who knows, but almost certainly genetics. He's a genetic anomaly.

                                He is also seriously mentally ill.
                                No one honestly knows what Walker does. To have a lean, extremely muscular physique like his in his late 40s yet he's clean and only does BW exercises?

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