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  • Leida, I would encourage you to stop thinking about your tendency to indulge yourself as a "character flaw". It is merely a tendency that you are trying to change. The associated negativity and maybe even guilt is probably not helpful to you reaching your goal. To spew a meaningless phrase "it is what it is". It is a behavior, one shared by many. The energy and time you are putting forth are beneficial accomplishments in their own right.
    As God is my witness, I'll never be hungry again.

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    • No, I don't view it negatively or feel guilty, just trying to figure out the root causes, and work through them. I am not much of a psychology person, so I am grateful it is relatively simple in my case.
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      • Yeah, I wouldn't see any of those htings as "character flaws" per se.

        I do the same, and so for me, just clearing out treats or being more mindful, more consistently of what I'm eating (and really, it's just basic primal), then I tend to tighten up then as I want.

        But, it's usually just a 5-10 lbs difference, so no big deal.

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        • 28 pages of thighs...and it really is sad that as women we all feel this need to fit into beauty magazine standards. I absolutely do this myself but try to recognize it stop it. It becomes this perpetuating negative behavior...we're happy when we are super skinny...we are depressed and miserable with 5 lbs on us, but we ARE beautiful women! Unfortunately society continues to perpetuate all of this by being proud of someone who through whatever means becomes really slender. "Oh you look so good!" THis was said to me over and over when I was sickest with IBS and down to my lowest weight of 118lbs. Even though I was a digestive disaster, everyone said how GOOD I looked---what women really mean is that I was REALLY SKINNY. That was the hardest thing to overcome...because now at a healthy 135...what am I to those people---fat? Hardly, but that's how those comments get construed in our media infused female brains.

          Sorry to rant...
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          • Yes, I hope I can have beautiful lean thighs, so I read this thread. But I would rather have a flat belly. More than that, I want to be as physically strong as I can be, and to be able to run, bike, hike and kayak without pain. Better than that... my skin is clear, my mood is stable, my GI issues are gone, and I have dropped 22 pounds in 6 months. Great thighs are a low priority for me, but I feel like I'm moving in the right direction, and now, at age 47, it finally seems possible.
            As God is my witness, I'll never be hungry again.

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            • Well, to be fair, the conversation has morphed and gone in several directions.

              I would say that if Leida is reporting being 5 ft 7 and 128 -- my weight -- I do not consider that "too much on my frame." It's a good, low weight IMO. At 5 ft 7, 135 is the average weight at our height, and while I have weighed as low as 118 (that was when I was doing triathlon training and vegan), I find I'm much happier in the 120s.

              I say that anywhere between 124 and 130 is really good for me, and so I'm happy at my weight and feel like I look great. So, no worries here.

              I'm happy with my thighs, my waist, my breasts, and even my skin -- even though I have capillary breaks on my face. I don't mind them, and I don't think anyone else finds me less attractive for it. In fact, most people find me attractive anyway, and fi they get close enough to notice those small things, they might be just as OK with them as I am.

              So, there it is.

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              • Nice to hear zoebird---and from another thread...most men arent finding super skinny, thighless, women all that attractive either!
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                • The common confusion is of 'thin' with 'tight'/'firm'. It is understandable in the female case, because we have smaller muscle and higher fat percentage, so to have the athletic look fat percentage has to go down significantly low to actually see the musculus and lose the flabby feel.

                  I have read that the biggest mistake the female body builders make is starting to lose fat too soon, without dedicating a few years to building up muscle mass. Which results in what most of us probably have experienced: a weak, flabby frame with fat still hanging at a minimal weight with an unstoppable hunger, mood swings, and perpetual exhaustion. And depression, because supporting this state is impossible.

                  For me fat loss still firmly correlates with the weight loss, but my wet dream is to experience the scale going up while inches going down/look better thinggie.

                  I am also not sure women can successfully and repeatedly go the men's way of bulking up and cutting, because firstly we do not put that much muscular mass on (i.e. 2 lbs of muscle a week which is doable for an untrained male is not an option for us) and I also suspect that we retain much more fat than males if we cycle, and, I suspect most of it on the thighs. Despite clean foods, yo-yo bulk-cut just doesn't seem a way to go.

                  Basically, for me the rule of thumb is that weight loss must not impact the shoulder. As soon as you start shredding the upper body, the weight loss has to stop because it does not improve the body, but does the opposite.

                  Anyway, the lagoon got opened downtown, so I officially kicked off the outdoor ice skating season. Wee! Skating is good for thighs and by far more friendly to a pear shaped me than the other favorite - the bike (can't take biking at all)
                  Last edited by Leida; 12-19-2012, 06:17 AM.
                  My Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57916.html
                  When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be.

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                  • Originally posted by zoebird View Post
                    Well, to be fair, the conversation has morphed and gone in several directions.

                    I would say that if Leida is reporting being 5 ft 7 and 128 -- my weight -- I do not consider that "too much on my frame." It's a good, low weight IMO. At 5 ft 7, 135 is the average weight at our height, and while I have weighed as low as 118 (that was when I was doing triathlon training and vegan), I find I'm much happier in the 120s.
                    To be honest, I feel a little hurt when I hear women around my height describing anything under 130 as big. I'm 5'8" and 150 pounds. I hear in the way women speak about themselves that those women see my weight as enormous and unacceptable, and I feel like maybe if they saw me without my clothes, they'd think I was all the things they say about themselves. And yet I'm at a perfectly healthy weight for my height and my measurements and body fat levels indicate I'm in good shape.

                    I just can't comprehend how a woman who weighs (on average) 25 pounds less than me can be in any way described as a whale or fat cow.
                    “If I didn't define myself for myself, I would be crunched into other people's fantasies for me and eaten alive.” --Audre Lorde

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                    • That's because the weight (mass) is a poor indicator. As I said, it is my wet dream to weigh more and measure less. Because that would indicate gaining muscle and losing fat. In fact I am absolutely envious and drooling about your muscle mass compared to mine.

                      I am not fat because I weigh a lot, but because fat makes up too much of my body percentage wise. However for me, weight does correlate directly to fat increase, rather than muscular increase, thus I am concerned about gaining weight. If I were gaining at least 75% of muscle when I gain weight, I would be a happy camper. But I gain 75% fat. In other words, I am skinny-fat or overfat, while not being overweight.
                      Last edited by Leida; 12-19-2012, 08:16 AM.
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                      When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be.

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                      • Originally posted by Owly View Post
                        To be honest, I feel a little hurt when I hear women around my height describing anything under 130 as big. I'm 5'8" and 150 pounds. I hear in the way women speak about themselves that those women see my weight as enormous and unacceptable, and I feel like maybe if they saw me without my clothes, they'd think I was all the things they say about themselves. And yet I'm at a perfectly healthy weight for my height and my measurements and body fat levels indicate I'm in good shape.

                        I just can't comprehend how a woman who weighs (on average) 25 pounds less than me can be in any way described as a whale or fat cow.
                        I know there's been a lot of discussion on this (Jessica Biel is too masculine?! FFS...), and the ridiculous heroine chic/refugee-thin modeling standards. As a guy, this all kinda pisses me off, to be honest. My wife is 5'6" 145-150#, and while she would like to lose some she looks great. She doesn't do weights, but we run. 5'8" 150# isn't "big." Women (and men) carry weight individually, and there's a wide range in what looks appropriate and attractive. (And of course what looks appropriate and attractive is subjective, right?)

                        I'm married, but I'm not dead. I look. Someone who looks natural, who has a fit appearance and a healthy glow, is going to be more attractive to me than some emaciated waif. Curves on a woman are not a bad thing (Sofia Vergara!). Muscle on a woman is not a bad thing. We're way too hung up on this shit, men, women, society. Be who you are, do the best you can, if someone doesn't like how you look then that's their problem.

                        As a young man trapped in a middle-aged guy's body , I want to look good for my woman, I want to feel vibrant and strong, but frankly I have a lot more to think about than whether people think I'm "big" or basically proportionate or whatever. Granted, there's a whole different set of expectations and societal crap women have to deal with, just sayin' I wish it weren't so. We each through our individual values have a vote in that, though. One small step at a time.

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                        • see I truly dont even believe in these terms like "skinny-fat." We are WOMEN...embrace it people. If you wanted to be super lean and muscular you should have been born a male. We are made perfect! Unfortunately our brains have been taken over by media schmedia -- it's like all women had a chip implanted to make them feel inferior due to any extraneous body fat...we DO become inferior as a result of our own undoing. We need way more self-love around here.
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                          • As long as the self hate doesn't slip in, perfecting your body is fine. I'll be damned if I'm going to be upset about my thighs. But... I do ABSOLUTELY HATE weight associated hate talk because you can end up offending people and making them feel bad. If your 22" thighs are gross, then what the hell are my 26" thighs? However, if you want to be leaner... great.

                            But being lean or fat does not make you pretty, gross, ugly, cow like or anything.

                            Not to be arrogant, but we all need some of this.... I have hefty 26" thighs that are flabby and my arms are flabby. But I fill out a sweater dress like nobody's business. I have big boobs, a nice ass and a small waist. Really quite enviable blond hair and nice skin. So when a car full of on vacation marines whistles at me, when clients proclaim my husband to be lucky, when people call me gorgeous.... I don't really give a rats ass that no one wants to see my thighs in short-shorts.... they want to see my tits in a tight sweater and my ass in a tight skirt. Every last one of you is gorgeous, so flaunt what you've got, work on what you don't and stop feeling bad about not being airbrushed.

                            If you come up with a way to fix problem areas without plastic surgery... let us all in on that trick, k?

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                            • Originally posted by Owly View Post
                              To be honest, I feel a little hurt when I hear women around my height describing anything under 130 as big. I'm 5'8" and 150 pounds. I hear in the way women speak about themselves that those women see my weight as enormous and unacceptable, and I feel like maybe if they saw me without my clothes, they'd think I was all the things they say about themselves. And yet I'm at a perfectly healthy weight for my height and my measurements and body fat levels indicate I'm in good shape.

                              I just can't comprehend how a woman who weighs (on average) 25 pounds less than me can be in any way described as a whale or fat cow.
                              I agree with this. I'm super short, less than 5'3" and at home my scale says 135 while at the doctor it said 142. So when some tall lady calls herself a whale or fat cow when she weighs so much less than me, I can only imagine what she would think of me if she saw me. It's like a virus when women say stuff like this about themselves, a virus that transfers to the rest of us and to our children.

                              I wouldn't want to be as skinny as some of you if I had to live with the kind of shit that goes on inside your heads.

                              I've got a very linear, chunky body with a thick waist, generous legs and too much upper arm size. I don't fill out anything in a manner that turns heads in this country. In rural India I turn heads and even stop traffic. Maybe I should go there instead.
                              Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                              • Originally posted by zoebird View Post
                                Well, to be fair, the conversation has morphed and gone in several directions.
                                Originally posted by Leida View Post
                                flabby frame with fat still hanging
                                Ok, since it has gone several directions, maybe I can ask this here? While you are still in weight loss mode, does your body sort of deflate, and maybe even look worse than before when it was fat? Kind of like a darkest before the dawn sort of thing? I have noticed things softer, even "flabbier" I guess is a word, whereas when it use to be filled with more fat, at least it was solid.

                                I am really hoping to not have alot of skin. I have lost about 70lbs so far, and not really fast. About 20 by making small changes over the course of a year maybe? Then January to mid-March I was dieting CW way and lost about 25. Since primal in mid March, so that's what? 9 months? to lose another 25. (uggggh) So anyways, it has not been rapid by any means. And I might be half way there. I dont know.

                                I figure it is what it is. I do "do stuff" but not a manic about that yet. Mostly just anal about the food part so far. Light ST 3 times, tabata on my elliptical 2-3 times but I am not always consistent. And it is cold so no big deal - no shorts in the near future, however I am hoping to emerge in the spring (okay summer sometime) as a butterfly though

                                Anyways, I was just wondering if things tend to get softer before they adios.
                                65lbs gone and counting!!

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