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  • Still gaining and depressed :(

    Greetings!
    A lot of you by now have read my story so I won't go into it again. Anywho, I've been on PB since October/November 2010. I lost about 4 lbs. and an inch in the waist and a little in the hips. After about a month it came back plus a couple pounds. (No changes in diet or exercise) So I took the advice of more experienced PB-ers and cut out nut butters and most dairy and changed to HIIT workouts. The same thing happened again! So, I started VLC about the end of January/beginning of Feb. and once again, the same thing has happened.
    I rotate workouts every few weeks. I'm keeping up on my weights, walking and cardio. I try to rotate in some HIITS every few weeks. I watch my calories on the days I don't work out, eat a little more on the days I do. I try to have a 300 calorie deficit every day. I have fasted one day a week since starting VLC. It is so very important to me that I do not go back to being overweight.
    Could it be that the high fat and low carb does not work for me? I'm almost up to the next size in pants and not sure what to do about it. I think my body hates me. . .
    Any suggestions? Thanks!

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    I am too new at Primal to be of help on that front. But have you had your levels checked by a doctor? Such as your thyroid?
    My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread70684.html

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Kymma View Post
      I am too new at Primal to be of help on that front. But have you had your levels checked by a doctor? Such as your thyroid?
      Thank you! Yes, I have and everything is normal.

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      • #4
        Thank you! Yes, I have and everything is normal.
        Then you don't have a calorie deficit, despite your estimates/tracking.
        FWIW, I haven't read your previous thread!

        Most people underestimate the number of calories they are eating and overestimate their basal metabolic rate. To make things clearer, I ate 100% Primal and tracked my calories very carefully (via FitDay) for a week. Then I dropped my calories by 500 and ate vlc, to make it easier to maintain the deficit. I consistently lost body fat. This is one way to do it. Short term (I only did it for 6 weeks) can really help motivate you and create more awareness around food portions.

        Another way to create a calorie deficit is Intermittent Fasting. Reducing my eating window to 8 hours (from noon to 8pm) and eating to just before I am full has worked equally well. I follow LeanSaloon's blog for IF advice. IFing has other benefits as well--and I got bored tracking, so this is what I am doing now to lean out.

        If your increase is compounded by inflammation, then you need to totally cut out dairy and or nightshades for a couple of week to see if they are causing a problem.
        Last edited by Dragonfly; 04-06-2011, 02:05 PM.
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        • #5
          Oh, and please don't post twice in different forums--so confusing!
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          • #6
            I don't remember your earlier posts - some additional info would be helpful. What is your current age/weight/height? Around how many calories do you eat?

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            • #7
              Make sure to lower all stressors. Fasting can be a stressor, be careful with it. HIIT can be too stressful too if your doing it too much, but it looks ike your not. And, as Dragonfly said, check up on your calories. I think to lose weight you should be eating 15-17 calories per body weight (not too sure though). I also hear some people cannot lose with dairy, cut it out for a while and see how it goes. Cut out nuts too. It usually ends up that the people who have trouble losing the weight may have stubborn bodies, but also still have some bad eating habits that they are overlooking. Good luck, i hope at least one of us gives the answer to your problems

              P.S. If your not losing weight eating paleo, your certainly not going to do it eating CW style, grains offer nothing you can't get eating paleo... unless your some freak of nature who's body actually requires gluten for breaking down fat for energy lol.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by sanepsycho View Post
                I don't remember your earlier posts - some additional info would be helpful. What is your current age/weight/height? Around how many calories do you eat?
                I've been battling weight since the age of four and come from an overweight family. From 23-24 I went from about 250 lbs. to 150 lbs. and kept if off for about 4 yrs. on a low cal. SAD until a pregnancy. I've tried four different diets since November of 2010 and nothing has worked so far. I'm only 5 ft. 2 in. I've had things checked since the pregnancy and everything is "normal." The doctor basically did not believe me that I'm working my tail off to lose weight. So, not much help there. Thanks for the advice!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Dragonfly View Post
                  Then you don't have a calorie deficit, despite your estimates/tracking.
                  FWIW, I haven't read your previous thread!

                  Most people underestimate the number of calories they are eating and overestimate their basal metabolic rate. To make things clearer, I ate 100% Primal and tracked my calories very carefully (via FitDay) for a week. Then I dropped my calories by 500 and ate vlc, to make it easier to maintain the deficit. I consistently lost body fat. This is one way to do it. Short term (I only did it for 6 weeks) can really help motivate you and create more awareness around food portions.

                  Another way to create a calorie deficit is Intermittent Fasting. Reducing my eating window to 8 hours (from noon to 8pm) and eating to just before I am full has worked equally well. I follow LeanSaloon's blog for IF advice. IFing has other benefits as well--and I got bored tracking, so this is what I am doing now to lean out.

                  If your increase is compounded by inflammation, then you need to totally cut out dairy and or nightshades for a couple of week to see if they are causing a problem.
                  I thank you for the thought, but please do not lecture me on that front. I keep a very careful journal. On VLC I've been getting most carbs from veggies. I posted in both to hopefully get more help that way.
                  Last edited by trebleclef01; 04-06-2011, 02:25 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by trebleclef01 View Post
                    I've tried four different diets since November of 2010
                    I thought you've been primal since that time? Do you just mean different variations of primal?

                    Can you tell us what you typically consume in a day?

                    Also, on VLC you get carbs only from veggies. Are you eating fruit or nuts?
                    Everything in moderation, including moderation.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by trebleclef01 View Post
                      I thank you for the thought, but please do not lecture me on that front. I keep a very careful journal. On VLC I've been getting most carbs from veggies.
                      No lecture, just my 2 cents. If you want more help, you will have to provide more information--like a link to your previous thread, for example. Otherwise, we are just working with the information you posted.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by MariaNYC View Post
                        I thought you've been primal since that time? Do you just mean different variations of primal?

                        Can you tell us what you typically consume in a day?
                        Oops! Sorry I've tried four since November of 2009.
                        I usually rotate between eggs and bacon then avacodo for breakfast. I have half caff. coffee in the morning also. At lunch I usually have spinach salad or green beans. I have some sort of meat at dinner. I added dairy back in when it didn't work the first time. But it's usually just the cream in my coffee. Sometimes I have sausage for breakfast. I eat pork rinds on the weekends, but not a whole bag or anything. I also take one meal a week and eat high calorie. My dinner meats include beef, chicken, pork, and occasional salmon.
                        Last edited by trebleclef01; 04-06-2011, 02:35 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Some of your other threads if people want to catch up I can't rmember my own story let alone other people's

                          http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread18015.html

                          http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...tml#post292453

                          http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread23997.html

                          http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...tml#post294899

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                          • #14
                            Vitamin and mineral deficiencies can cause a weight loss stall - I recently lost a lot of weight after starting to supplement magnesium, before that I was stalling pretty badly and didn't know why. Weight loss is a very complex thing and many factors come into it other than carbs and calories.

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                            • #15
                              Quoting you from one of your earlier threads (thanks for the links, canio): " I lost four lbs. the first week and then nothing after that. I had my metabolic rate tested in June and found out that only burn 1500 calories per day at rest. This is why I am confused as I am only eating about 1200 calories per day and exercising."

                              I know I am one of the few who ever recommends this it seems, but to me you are not eating enough calories, especially given you lift weights and work out at what seems to be a moderate activity level. If your basal metabolism rate is 1500 - that is (I presume) based on what it takes for you to live and maintain weight if you were lying in bed all day with no activity at all. The Harris-Benedict formula gives a factor to multiply that number by in order to figure what you need to maintain based on your activity. The number for moderately active is 1.55, which would make your maintenance calories 2325; subtract 500 from that and that gives 1825 calories/day that you could theoretically be eating and lose weight.

                              People are so quick to say "if you aren't losing you must decrease calories!" - but from my own personal experience, I did not lose weight until I increased my calories from the standard 1200 to around 1700. I went from 137 to 125 eating by eating MORE and I didn't have to go VLC and I didn't have to drop dairy, nuts, etc. I think what happened with me was that I was not giving my body enough calories and nutrients, so my body was holding on to what it had - metabolism slowed. Once I started feeding my body what it needed I started losing. Don' be afraid to increase - you may see a slight increase in weight as your body adjusts to getting what it needs, but within a week or so your body should (if it works like it did for me) realize you are giving it enough daily and will start increasing the metabolism and start letting go of the fat. Look at it this way, what you have been doing for months isn't working, why not try this for at least 3 weeks and see what happens. It is nice to lose the fat and not have to feel like I was starving.

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