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  • Frustrated.. Primal, BUT on the weekends..

    Hey guys!

    I'm really frustrated. I'm an 18-year-old male and never had problems with my weight, but wanted to cut down on unnecessary fat and get a sixpack. Since I've been primal, you could almost see it and a lot when I would flex -- the only thing that doesn't look good, is that little bit of belly fat at the bottom.
    I am pretty strict about being primal, except for fridays (1 meal not primal) and usually get drunk once or twice on the weekends (I usually drink something like whisky-cola or vodka-energy, beer, wine, etc.)
    I really drink a lot then, but is that really why the little rest of fat won't disappear???
    Grok from Germany

    Primal since End/Beginning of 2010/2011

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    I think you know the answer to this question already. But just in case...

    If you aren't meeting your goals, then clean up your diet, every day of the week. I think primal during the week and then heavy drinking--particularly things containing cola!--is likely to be the worst of all worlds. Be kind to your body.
    Liz.

    Zone diet on and off for several years....worked, but too much focus on exact meal composition
    Primal since July 2010...skinniest I've ever been and the least stressed about food

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    • #3
      How much do you eat? When you drink, do you eat less to compensate or do you eat the same amount? Remember that alcohol is a source of calories. I'm assuming it's actually fat and not a bloated lower belly.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by AndreaReina View Post
        How much do you eat? When you drink, do you eat less to compensate or do you eat the same amount? Remember that alcohol is a source of calories. I'm assuming it's actually fat and not a bloated lower belly.
        Well it depends, I try to skip a meal or eat less when I drink, but it's hard.
        Grok from Germany

        Primal since End/Beginning of 2010/2011

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        • #5
          Originally posted by lizch View Post
          I think you know the answer to this question already. But just in case...

          If you aren't meeting your goals, then clean up your diet, every day of the week. I think primal during the week and then heavy drinking--particularly things containing cola!--is likely to be the worst of all worlds. Be kind to your body.
          Well I wanna have fun and drink when I am young. I know drinking isn't good, but that's not the topic. But could it have so much influence on my belly?
          Grok from Germany

          Primal since End/Beginning of 2010/2011

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          • #6
            Originally posted by traintolive View Post
            Well I wanna have fun and drink when I am young. I know drinking isn't good, but that's not the topic. But could it have so much influence on my belly?
            Yeah, I definitely have a harder time dropping fat when I'm drinking regularly. Alcohol can have interesting metabolic effects.
            The Primal Holla! Eating fat. Getting lean. Being awesome.

            You were sick, but now you're well, and there's work to do. - Kilgore Trout

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            • #7
              yes, honey, that's why they call it a "beer gut." and, btw, it even more greatly affects females than males, because females metabolize alcohol completely differently from males.

              alcohol is 9 calories per gram -- higher than anything else (fat, carb, or protein). it's easy to over-consume -- being liquid and a buzz-producer.

              so, yes, it totally affects your stomach.

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              • #8
                Just like others have said if you want that perfect physique you are going to need to get cleaner with your diet. You can still drink but maybe you can cut down on it a little. Robb Wolf has a recipe for his "Nor-Cal Margherita" which is pretty clean for an adult beverage. But he even recommends not having more than 2 in one sitting. It is nice that you are 18 and can legally drink in Germany
                "If man made it, don't eat it" - Jack Lallane

                People say I am on a "crazy" diet. What is so crazy about eating veggies, fruits, seafood and organ meats? Just because I don't eat whole wheat and processed food doesn't make my diet "crazy". Maybe everyone else with a SAD are the "crazy" ones for putting that junk in their system.

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                • #9
                  Another thing that may be screwing with your body a LOT is the energy drinks you're drinking with booze. That's just a bad combination, no matter what diet you follow, and they're usually also loaded with sugar, like coke. If you're going to drink, at least go for low- or no-sugar mixers. I drink as well, as someone who's younger and goes out, but I know sugar with booze will just make me feel and look flubby.
                  I don't own a scale and don't care to!

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                  • #10
                    Have you thought about going VLC? (very low carb)? For some people that seems to help shred off the fat.

                    Here's what Mark says about the booze:

                    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/how-much-is-too-much/

                    He also says this: "Very few people can achieve that ultra-ripped, Men’s Health cover model look without significant, painstaking adherence to a strictly regimented program."

                    in this post: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/carb-...d-weight-loss/
                    Last edited by me2; 02-20-2011, 03:52 PM.
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                    ‘THE FOOD YOU EAT CAN BE THE SAFEST AND MOST POWERFUL FORM OF MEDICINE OR THE SLOWEST RELEASING POISON' - Dr Ann Wigmore.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by zoebird View Post
                      alcohol is 9 calories per gram -- higher than anything else (fat, carb, or protein). it's easy to over-consume -- being liquid and a buzz-producer.
                      Incorrect, alcohol contributes seven calories per gram; fat has the wonderful title of most caloric nutrient per gram (nine Kcal/gm). It's still more than carbohydrate and protein, so do be careful when downing the liquor/beer/whatever.
                      Are you a college student, trying to navigate college while being Primal? Do you know any other PB college students on a tight budget? Heck, for that matter, are YOU trying to live Primal on a budget? Enroll at Primal University!

                      For after all what is man in nature? A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing, a central point between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either.
                      -- Blaise Pascal

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                      • #12
                        thanks. i always got them flipped when i took the class 10 years ago (or more). the nutritionist who taught the class was pretty much primal. LOL

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ilikesubtitles View Post
                          Another thing that may be screwing with your body a LOT is the energy drinks you're drinking with booze. That's just a bad combination, no matter what diet you follow, and they're usually also loaded with sugar, like coke. If you're going to drink, at least go for low- or no-sugar mixers. I drink as well, as someone who's younger and goes out, but I know sugar with booze will just make me feel and look flubby.
                          Any advice on what else I could drink my whisky with? Don't know what other than whisky-cola. And what about the vodka?
                          Grok from Germany

                          Primal since End/Beginning of 2010/2011

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by traintolive View Post
                            Any advice on what else I could drink my whisky with? Don't know what other than whisky-cola. And what about the vodka?
                            Drink your whiskey straight or on the rocks. Get vodka with seltzer/club soda and a wedge of lime.
                            The Primal Holla! Eating fat. Getting lean. Being awesome.

                            You were sick, but now you're well, and there's work to do. - Kilgore Trout

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by theholla View Post
                              Drink your whiskey straight or on the rocks. Get vodka with seltzer/club soda and a wedge of lime.
                              Wait. People drink their whiskey any other way?

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                              Initial Weight When Starting Primal: 275 lbs
                              Current weight: 210.8 lbs
                              Goal weight: 220 lbs (or less): MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

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